Truly one of the most obnoxious aspects of online RPG discourse.
Truly one of the most obnoxious aspects of online RPG discourse.
But the explosive success of 5E has brought that out, and it's not entirely the fault of the people being snarky about D&D. Some of it is 'eternal september' quasi-nostalgia, some of it is people pushing about against something being popular, but a lot of it is that D&D discussion has invaded all sorts of other places that were either specifically about alternative systems, or were intended to be balanced in what was being discussed. The relative newness for a lot people in the overall hobby, along with Wizards very much pushing it as a lifestyle/identity choice has also resulted in a lot of people discussing D&D on the internet being some mixture of hostile/dismissive/etc. of any discourse that isn't about 5E.
I've lost count of the number of conversations I've witnessed where people are talking about something they dislike in D&D or asking how to homebrew a system on top of it to do a certain thing, and someone will politely say "Hey this is pretty core to how 5E functions and is part of the primary gameplay loop, you might want to look into X system because it handles Y thing in Z way, which seems to align with your needs here," and they get a rather rude dismissal. With the release of the One D&D rules, I saw lots of conversations where criticism of them, even from 5E players, were taken as some sort of personal attack on a core values of people who were fans.
There are plenty of assholes in the OSR, storygaming, etc. scenes. Toxicity sure isn't limited to the 5E players. But the sheer number of them, coupled with the previously mentioned Wizards marketing strategy, has resulted in a lot of the rest of the TTRPG community stuck with their hackles raised and feeling like they always have to be on the defensive. And that leads to the snark.
There are lots of media fandoms out there where certain parts of the fandom get much, much more fan interest than others. There have always been popular blockbuster movies, books are dominated by bestsellers, anime and manga have always been dominated by shounen works which have fandoms much larger than all the other anime and manga debuting in the year combined. Those fandoms don't seem to have their hackles raised permanently when discussing the popular properties. Instead fans of the broader medium recognize that they are a fan of the medium as a whole instead of the most popular properties. The TTRPG space seems uniquely bitter.
Even aside from the silly 5E spat, the loudest TTRPG voices tend to strongly prefer story games and the old Forge forum had a legacy of using hyperbolic language to criticize adjacent styles that were mostly a matter of taste. In my experience, TTRPG discourse is quite bad and mostly involves talking up your preferences and criticizing others'. I enjoy the hobby but really hate the childish, camp-obsessed discourse. I tend to stick to the spaces of systems I like because there's less us-vs-them going on.
The anti-D&D snark at the NASA adventure is a great example. I can think of 4 non-D&D-lineage (so non-OSR) systems that the adventure is trivial to convert to. But instead of producing translations of the adventure or thanking the NASA folks for releasing a free adventure, the TTRPG world seems to be yet again trying to find the smallest thing they can to get angry over.
“It's... fine? I mean, it's pretty obviously written for D&D and games operating in the same space, with similar expectations for what a TTRPG adventure looks like (meet some fantasy people, go to a dungeon, dodge the traps, fight the enemies, beat up a boss, go home).”
This doesn’t seem all that angry to me. It doesn’t say that D&D is bad. It doesn’t say that the adventure is useless for any non-D&D game; it says that the adventure is oriented towards the traditional and popular idea of what an adventure should look like. That’s true!
Then they compliment all the images NASA has produced over the years and offer a way to do something else cool with them. That seems pretty cool to me.
I would agree that, on the whole, there is more interest in alternate systems because D&D has gotten so popular.
Though that’s somewhat inside baseball consumer-corporate drama.
If I show you a random group of gamers playing an RPG and you guess they are playing DnD then you'll be correct more often than not.
Check out https://5e.tools/ for an example of a good free, self-hostable resource.