Incorrect Stack Exchange answers make me angry
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Closing as duplicate is annoying. Unlike normal answers, which participate in voting and defer to the asker for acceptance, it effectively functions as a "super-answer" imposed unilaterally by a power user with few checks on if they were wrong.
A youtube comment won't get more upvotes than the video it refers to. It's just a matter of structure, of visibility.
It's nice that there is a comment. The author apparently also doesn't know he can (propose to) edit the existing answer. If he doesn't have enough reputation, it will have to be approved by another member (it will be in a moderating queue).
I can agree that it is frustrating sometimes to see an invalid answer being upvoted... Especially if you write the correct answer but the invalid one remains with the higher score just because it was there first, or because the voters are unable to tell it's incorrect and unable to tell your critique is correct. But that's not really related to SE.
On SE however, one can say that what answer gets the most upvotes is the most important aspect of the site.
For me, the date of the answer had become a key information to check before I even reading the answer.
I use Django a lot and it significantly evolved over the years. And for too many times, I'd spend time implementing a solution, only to realize it no longer worked since version x.y that was published z years ago.
The thing is, stack exchange was built to serve an industry characterized by its very rapid evolution overtime. Yet, it fails, IN MY OPINION, to adress such a key element in a graceful way.
The documentation industry solved this years ago. Going back to Django again, its doc site allows users to select the version they're interested in order to show them relevant content.
I think stack exchange needs to implement something similar for its answers. How can that work? Well, users can be allowed to add tags to mark versions where they know the solution doesn't apply anymore. It may not be the earliest version where this issue arises, and that's understandable. Other users can later refine the threshold data.
SE can then display the info where searchers can easily spot it [Answer not applicable since x.y] and avoid them some confused head scratching.
We can push this even further with multiple correct answers for a single question, depending on the version. Users can even add the version of different software they're interested in and see the correct answer that applies higher, regardless of number of upvotes.
(Written on my phone. Apologies for typos.)
The positivity® is an issue too, I agree. Or maybe anti-negativity. On blender.stackexchange.com, where I'm active, we have a problem of few people caring to upvote questions. The best way yo motivate people to upvote a question is to... Downvote it. As long as a question isn't absolutely terrible, if it has negative score, people will upvote it to 0. Which generates reputation for the author of the question, because he gets -2 rep for a downvote and +10 for an upvote.
Very few good questions have received the love required to keep them relevant, and even then, the accepted answer is generally correct only for a setup that is so far behind in time it has now been superseded by a completely new set of tools and technologies. With the ones that do receive new answers, you still have an issue of visibility, they just hang in a lower position in the thread, and because the vote system mainly works with novel answers, the incentive to actually correct or update the knowledge on an old question is removed.
This mechanic is probably just fine for stuff like the Language SEs or even code golf, but for for technical questions, especially for dev related stuff, the system has proven to have aged like milk.
The problem is that fine tuning (and occasional restructuring) needs to be an ongoing process, and it has stopped. It feels like the original creators left and the site has been coasting on auto-pilot for a few years now.
That's what worries me about the future of SO. It was an enormous improvement over what came before (in fact was created as a reaction to the horrible status quo - expertsexchange anyone?). But if it's left to continue to wither it will eventually become like those sites.
This is exactly it. SO is ossifying. Plus a small number of power users have final say on things like e.g. duplicate status, with no way of revising their decision.
The usefulness of the site is slowly decreasing and it's a shame
Asking questions about X very specific thing on Y very specific version of Z specific technology should have answers that can be correct forever, as well as being very searchable.
However, the setup of the site is such that questions like that aren't rewarded, for all the reasons we are familiar with. Instead effort and attention tend to funnel towards very generic, high level, sometimes even tech agnostic questions that accrue hundreds to thousands of upvotes and orders of magnitude more views.
Unfortunately for these, the 'right' or most appropriate answers of course very much moreso change in time.
Some questions receive so much of the love that it brings really wild ideas to casual reader's mind - what would happen if software involved in the question would be changed? Wouldn't it bring joy and collectively insane amount of saved time?
Like this question with 13.8m views - let's assume 5min for every viewer, ~131 years collectively. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/927358/how-do-i-undo-the...
I'd suggest starting to provide correct answers and cite your sources. Build trust in the community and make things better.
Speaking for myself, quite peacefully, thank you!
That's not to say it's not annoying to get arbitration in a niche section of SO/SE site. The site could use a bit more transparency, but that's a difficult balance. I've been a community moderator and also on the receiving end of a power user's whims, so maybe it's perspective or maybe it's bias, but I can't say the system is necessarily going downhill.
2. Ask new question and answer it yourself. It won’t become more popular but maybe it will help a few people who can find it.
But, yeah, it sucks.
This seems eminently reasonable. Why was the process not used by the post author? Why was it not mentioned?
Also editing an answer to something completely different is definitely not in the right way to "solve" bad answers, I think. My guess is the edits would be revoked, in any case.
I figured there likely would be others in my situation so I posted an answer "if you flip the question the answer is obvious and might be useful, depending on your situation".
I guess it was, because it gets a bunch of upvotes. But the high score for a wrong answer infuriates some people, so it also gets lots of down votes and comments too.
My answer doesn't answer the question asked and is definitely not helpful for those who can't flip the question. Does it belong on the site?
I'll link it since it isn't hard to find, but be nice. https://stackoverflow.com/a/8329572/91365