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Maybe cars are inherently garish and tasteless.

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Yep. Apple dodged a very uncool bullet here. Now make an e-bike, Tim Apple.

This. Ebike with non disableable airtag built into the frame as the killer feature.

Ebike market is very fragmented in terms of use cases. They’d have to release like 10 models.

just 3: good, better, best

Bike, Bike Pro, Bike Ultra

Slight addition: eBike, eBike Pro, eBike Ultra. Ok, good job folks. I think we got it.

Bike, Bike Pro, and Bike Ultra

USB-C?

Instructions misunderstood, released Bike S Air Pro

But which one is a cargo bike? A mountain bike? A street bike? A commuter bike?

"These are not 4 separate devices"

I'm pointing out, as others have, that the bike market is highly fragmented, lots of variety for good reason. It would be hard to come put with "a" , or even "a line" of bikes. You really need a dozen

Your parent wasn’t disagreeing. "These are not 4 separate devices" is a reference to the iPhone launch announcement.

Thats what the accessories are for!

Which one is the kids bike? Which one is the bakfiets?

This already exists: https://mfi.apple.com/

The bike pictured is a VanMoof S3 which was discontinued when VanMoof went bust.

Just a button, would be better.

Like an AirTag but it does some home automation thing.

What if, hear me out, the wheels were on the sides and not front and back. It uses gyroscopes to keep itself balanced. Instead of twisting the handle or pushing a button like a savage you lean in the direction you want to go! This is a totally new idea and not a product that was released over 20 years ago and since discontinued.

For a second there I thought you were talking about the IT bike from South Park.

https://southpark.fandom.com/wiki/IT

When you make an argument like that, the suggested changes need to be improvements.

A 12 mile per hour limit is really bad for a transportation device.

It’s like a bicycle for your body

Thanks. For reference: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KmuP8gsgWb8

There was a gyroscope based motorcycle which I thought was more the Apple Style. I was imagining single person cars just like they make all their devices single user. Get one auto-driving bike for each member of the family and you would ride laying on your back so you could take a nap if you wanted.

My long-standing hobbyhorse is that Apple should buy Brompton.

Miniaturisation? Check. Lightweight metals? Check. Battery technology? Check. Premium design-centric product? Check. Product small enough to be sold through worldwide network of Apple Stores? Check.

Then add in what Apple could do with UX around bike navigation and you have a perfect fit.

They are! All modern cars look like Transformers toys. With their stupid mean-face grills. Design is awful.

I appreciate early cars when people didn't know what they should look like, and were just building all kinds of weird stuff. That awkwardness was charming. Now it's just generational pandering, and my generation is left out (apparently my generation is 1920's-1930's).

> mean-face grills

I think by 2030 trucks will be about 6 feet of grill and a 6-inch eyeslit to see out of.

I don't really participate in twitter anymore, but back in the day, I had AI design a truck of the future: https://twitter.com/davidnwelton/status/1661577114129416194/...

Refining my plans a bit more

https://www.threads.net/@davidnwelton/post/C34NEOpLMZ5

Ford & GM & Dodge will just release a consumer version of the M1 Abrams so the fantasy lived by these consumes can be fully and finally fulfilled.

Doubt it. I think good ones can be made, it’s just that nobody gives a shit, including most of the buyers.

“Good” is subjective. My idea of a good car is something that can get me from A-B, can hold dogs and be cleaned up easily, can tow a few thousand pounds in a pinch, doesn’t get stuck in the steep and muddy hills around my house, doesn’t break the bank, and it would be nice if it didn’t spy on me and have a giant shiny console in my field of view.

What you’re describing is lower end “Car SE” that’d be available in a few years.

That's iCar SE.

2010 Subaru Forester or equivalent.

One of my hottest takes: cars look dumb. Even the fancy muscle/sports cars. Watch the suspension kick in as a car drives over a speed bump and remember it’s just a box on wheels.

I think cars only look good relative to other cars. But as an object themselves, they don’t add to the landscape.

Look at all the concept renderings of future apartments or idyllic European countryside’s. There’s always only a few cars or one car. Together, they are an an invasive organism.

Yeah, when you’re broke. The average American is struggling to pay for food, an electric car is the last thing on their minds.

The average American is not struggling to pay for food.

Good point. Above-average earners are also struggling at this point.

The median American may be, however

So strange to see this Reddit meme make its way to HN. The median American absolutely isn't struggling for food, lmfao.

Coincidence, I'm afraid; I am not familiar with such a meme. Merely observing that the median American has a household income only about 75% that of the average American, and therefore spends proportionally more of the household budget on groceries, thus feeling the 25% increase in grocery prices over the last four years rather more keenly. Whether that constitutes "struggle" seems like it must be a personal judgement.

Noticing a price increase isn't "struggling." The median American could double their food budget and would be just fine.

Your analysis is all wonky. The % of average income and % increase in food price is completely irrelevant - food is a fixed cost and the median American has many times the cost of food left over in disposable income.

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