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FYI This is a public beta with a wait list. I was not able to access directly.

Same here. When I try to log into Le Chat, I get a message saying “You are on the waitlist. We will let you know when you can start using the app.”

I have been using the Mistral API for the past couple of months, and earlier today I updated my links to use the new endpoints [1]. The small and medium models worked fine through the API, but for several hours the large model failed to respond. When I tried the large model again just now, though, it was working.

It’s evening here in Japan, so I’ll start evaluating the large model’s performance tomorrow.

[1] https://docs.mistral.ai/platform/changelog/

Maybe it was for previous few hours after launch, I just did a normal signup and instant access to large, next and small model

Does work for me, just registered with a Google Account. Perhaps they have troubles with the load and throttle the user inflow because of this. Or could be location-related, I joined from Europe.

For everyone not speaking french: "le chat" in french translates to "the cat". So I guess that's a play on words that works given the context and probably the mostly not native french audience.

Many french will call a chat app a "chat" not with the french pronunciation.

I personally make an exception for ChatGPT for the delightful phonetical prononciation that translates to "cat I did fart"

Even better if you pronounce the 4 in ChatGPT4 as “for[t]”.

Cat, I did fart loudly.

(chat, j'ai pété fort. ChatGPT4).

chatte, which translates to pussy, is a better homophone. Also funnier but less sfw

That was a classic when playing on the french Speak & Spell

GPTOPIDQ

8 year olds will laugh at anything.

Well LHOOQ is one the most famous french art piece, so, maybe there's something going on here.

Wait, that was my joke!

https://imgur.com/a/PCqFjOQ

(apologies to Geluck)

True, but here, the insistence on using "le" (instead of just "Mistral Chat"), the "Adoptez le Chat" (adopt the cat) wording and if you go further, the little cat head inside the "M" logo makes the pun very obvious.

It's a way of using the English term "chat" while using the typically French article "Le". It reminds me of old American cartoons that abused the article "Le" to emphasize the French aspect of a character or place. The Mistral products "La Plateforme" and "Le Chat" follow this principle.

I don't think it's possible that a Francophone pronounces an English word without a "french pronounciation" :-D <3

Genuinely curious, what context would explain something relating to a cat?

My first reaction as a French native speaker was to read it as "the chat", considering that "chat" is a well-known Anglicism in French.

I recognised it because of that poster for ‘Le Chat Noir’

when you use it on dark mode, it does say

Le Chat Noir_

as an inside joke!

Yes in that context it's pretty clear, but if you encounter the word "chat" in any french text, wouldn't you normally assume that it means the animal? I have a similar example in german: The word "Fee" in german means "fairy" and when we used it to promote a product in the past, someone who came from a financial background read it as the english "fee" and was pretty confused about that sentence :)

I guess it’s like « le Big Mac » in pulp fiction.

I like to think of it as partially owning how chatGPT sounds like "Cat, I farted"

Very excited for them. Tried it and works quite well. Very evident that each of the foundational model developers need to offer a free chat(till now) interface for RLHF/DPO to improve their models. It's costly for them to run servers, but even higher opportunity cost if they don't do this and offer a free service. Intuitively, I think GPT-4 was very good with various questions because they used the early data from ChatGPT to further finetune/align the model with a good sample of real world queries, the kind only available to them.

As an aside, most of these models are SFTed on GPT 4 generated q&a pairs (if not pretrained on them). When you ask these kind of questions[1], they spill the beans fairly easily and say they are a model of openai. Funnily enough if you ask they are a model trained by Anthropic, it refutes it immediately and ask correctly about being a mistral trained model. Same question about openai, it gives the answer in scr.

[1]: https://imgur.com/a/fGEHXH8 PS: First question was to test the reasoning. A quantized model or smaller models answer that as 4 not 5. Mistral answered correctly from a badly given question.

OpenAI also had years "flying under the radar" training on API requests

They don't train on API requests

Why should anybody believe them?

Don't think it adds a lot of value. One, the instruction-following models do not create high quality q&a pairs, chats do it by default. Two, at the time the usage was very low compared to ChatGPT. I am fairly confident, one month of people trying all sorts of things w ChatGPT gave them a lot more data - both in quantity and range - compared to API usage previously. Third, they always maintained they do not train on API inputs, and I think it's fair to assume that. They do not get feedback whether the output was any good, so it's always dicey to feed that directly to a model without those signals.

This can be (could be) a total hallucination. There may be some training data from OpenAI but outside it responding that way, except for me aforementioned point, where is the proof thus far?

I can't speak French but I know enough to navigate and mostly guess what is being said. I'm so delighted - knowing even a little of another language is still rewarding. One shouldn't be put off by the difficulty of becoming fluent. I may never be fluent but I still think it opens the world up to me that bit more.

There is a language button in the top right, I don't know why OP linked the french version

https://mistral.ai/news/le-chat-mistral/

Here is a step by step guide on how to deploy Mistral Large to Azure: https://neon.tech/blog/deploy-mistral-large-to-azure-and-cha...

At first I thought this is a homage to the beloved Le Chat [1] cartoon character (more popular in Belgium than France).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Chat

It's been down for me since morning. Can't get it to respond. Le chat is Le down?

Le chat est sur la table.

For everyone not speaking French: le means “the” so this is “Mistral the chat” or maybe “The Mistral Chat”. My knowledge of French is limited but it feels right to immediately get ahead of any misunderstandings here for English speakers

Le mans?

Thank you

I think “le”/“la” is one of those French words most (well-)educated English speakers already know. English uses French phrases containing it anyway (e.g. avant la lettre)

I know almost zero Spanish, but I know what “el” means. And I know almost zero Arabic, but I know “al-“ and “ibn”. I think that level of (extremely minimal) knowledge of Spanish and Arabic is rather common among Anglophones; and “le”/“la”/“un”/“de”/etc is the same thing for French

It's knowledge cutoff is 2021. Mistral needs to have it trained a bit more, (and I am sure they are) but it should be available to use.

It might actually happen soon cause they have a deal with Microsoft in place.

Excited about the Microsoft partnership

To anyone from the Mistral team: I currently receive an error when trying to log-out!

Little typo with "égalemetn" but it's exciting!

This'll put the chat amongst the pigeons.

Who is Mistral the cat?

A pretty intelligent one

AI Overlords for 400, please.

"Le Big Mac™"

In English: https://mistral.ai/news/le-chat-mistral/

Thanks. At the mercy of Chrome's translation it says 'Cat' everywhere.

Merci for the clarification.

Changed from https://mistral.ai/fr/news/le-chat-mistral/. Thanks!

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