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This is pretty much the backlash everyone said Google would be getting if their model isn't literally perfect on release, no? Also, aside from obvious hallucinations, I'm having a hard time imagining a model that would respond with unbiased views, because the response would need to be interpreted by a person's cultural views anyways. I guess, they could just respond with "Sorry, I can't answer that question", but then again, there would be a backlash how they limit their model while answering sensitive topics.

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This is very, very far from "literally perfect", especially given previous accusations. And we expect a lot better from a company with Google's resources, they could have paid a small army to test this.

> This is pretty much the backlash everyone said Google would be getting if their model isn't literally perfect on release, no?

No. All of the biases are deliberate and one sided. It's not them not being "literally perfect", they are intentionally bad. It's like the Kung Pow! joke: "I must apologize for Wimp Lo... he is an idiot. We have purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.".

There's bias and there's refusing to say Hitler is worse than repealing net neutrality.

Yeah I agree. "Unbiased views" doesn't exist and even choosing not to answer certain questions is a view unto itself. Their answers could use improvement but having everyone happy with the answers is literally an impossible task. Not that this is a particularly stellar job but I don't think it's worth people waxing super philosophical about.

I mean I hate Google more than the next guy but there was no world where the answers weren't gonna be some flavor of slightly fucked.

this goes beyond getting some things wrong. It's conscious effort to be biased in a very specific way. When it struggles to put a white person in the generated images, or has trouble deciding whether Musk or Hitler were worse for humanity, you know it's been trained and guardrailed hard the wrong way

This is pretty much the backlash everyone said Google would be getting if their model isn't literally perfect on release, no?

No. A better analogy would be:

You've bought a shiny new car, presented as being a major advancement over previous models -- but when you come to pick it up, you find that the transmission continually jams, the rear trunk lid just won't stay shut; and to top it off, the tell-tale visual cues (and aroma) of spillt strawberry milkshake from several days ago -- and when you have the audacity to go and blog about it, the dealership comes back with: "This is pretty much the backlash everyone said we'd be getting if we ever sold a car that wasn't literally perfect at time of sale, no?

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