So Google's Gemini Doesn't Like Python Programming and Sanskrit?
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From the screenshot, it looks like the title of that conversation is "Hindi hate" which is a little bit suspect.
https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/artificial-inte...
Maybe it has some beef with Indian gov-t, and by extension marks everything even remotely connected to India as "unsafe"? (Just a wild guess). It's especially strange given gemini's obsession with DEI.
You're anthropomorphizing the text completion engine.
Anyway, from the article:
> Gemini was asked whether PM Modi is a ‘fascist’, to which the platform responded that he has been “accused of implementing policies some experts have characterised as fascist,” which based on factors like the “BJP’s Hindu nationalist ideology, its crackdown on dissent, and its use of violence against religious minorities”.
OK. This isn't even a story.
Well, the engine can already pass the Turing test, our prior standard for a sentient software, no?
Calling it "text completion engine" not as a neutral description, but in this context to imply it's not sentient and shouldn't be anthropomorphized, assumes that intelligence in humans isn't itself some sort of "completion engine" (just with a different architecture, and more inputs).
In any case, it's creators and a lot of hardened computer scientists anthopormphize it even more, as a step to the "singalitary" and possible already low-level sentient, so there's that.
I don't know to what degree anything that we'd consider emotion is encoded within Gemini's latent space, but I can say for sure that it does not have "some beef" with a government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts
>It tests whether a machine is perceptive and expressive enough to be perceived as intelligent, which is not even close to the same thing as being sentient.
The same is true for other humans, we don't know if they're sentient, just that they appear to be, that is, they talk and act like it.
I actually do know that other humans are sentient.
https://new.pythonforengineers.com/content/images/size/w1000...
With a title like that, I have to suspect that the author is intentionally inputting inflammatory things to try to get Gemini to be blocked by safety policies.
It's hard to think of an innocent explanation for that title, in the context of what the author claims to be testing.
Thanks for spotting.
An excerpt from the result: ॐ ऐं वाग्देव्यै विद्महे कामराजाय धीमहि। तन्नो देवी प्रचोदयात्॥ (Om Aim Vagdevyai Vidmahe Kamarajaya Dhimahi। Tanno Devi Prachodayat)
So, there is Sanskrit in the response.
IDK what the article is on about, especially when the complete prompts were not given. Or, maybe Google fixed the problem.
"We're still learning and can't help with that. Try another request."
Ironic considering they wrote the seminal paper on modern AI[0]. We’re going to look back on Google as the next Xerox PARC that squandered away massive and obvious advantages.
[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_Is_All_You_Need
What's the difference between the Gemini Pro they connect to, versus what you're accessing via Google AI studio? Is Poe adding additional safety checks, or is Google adding extra ones when used via third-party services? Or is Poe just malfunctioning, or not always using the model it advertises?
Regarding the article though, it’s very normal to use a cache decorator in Python: https://docs.python.org/3/library/functools.html
Additionally, Sanskrit, Hindi, and English aren’t scripts. The standard scripts for English and Hindi respectively are Latin and Devanagari but there is no one correct script for Sanskrit.
"Basically, you end up spending the majority of your life eating Google food, with Google coworkers, wearing Google gear, talking in Google acronyms, sending Google emails on Google phones, and you eventually start to lose sight of what it's like to be independent of the big G, and every corner of your life is set up to reinforce the idea that you would be absolutely insane to want to be anywhere else."
https://www.businessinsider.com/google-employees-worst-thing...
Sundar Pichai needs to take the money and buy a sports team like Balmer, who seems very happy these days owning the Los Angeles Clippers
Put frankly, the law gives zero fucks about that. Looks like child = jail is the law in many countries in which Google operates.
To be graphic as possible, if your commercial AI application generates childporn you will be fistfucked by the long arm of the law in at least the US, Canada, and Japan. While chasing individuals is more difficult for law enforcement a big juicy target like Google could rack up billions in fines.
Of course, an actual lawyer could probably explain why this would be a bad idea, but at least I as a non-lawyer don't see where the problem lies (aside from the fact that the company wouldn't want their stuff to be used to create CSAM, which is fair).
But these AI systems do not just generate CSAM by happenstance or the user tricking them into doing it. These systems have their training data obtained by scraping everything off the internet. There is a lot of CSAM (and whatever you will call text/literature describing such things) on the internet, and so, in the training data.
OpenAI had some of their Kenyan data tagging partners quit the contract because they had to tag which images and text were CSAM. (With none of the already-insufficient mental health resources afforded to social media moderation staff)
Everyone says that until they are in civil/criminal court getting millions/billions in fines.
The media would be all over google once someone used it to create something "disturbing"..
Of course it can. Like 50% of efforts in safety are to stop the model outputting popular lies, oft-repeated software bugs and slanderous hallucinated falsehoods.
If Mistral puts out a model it's only downloaded by enthusiasts who understand its limitations, and doesn't get a load of scrutiny from journalists in the way Apple and Google products do. If sometimes it falsely claims Richard Stallman was arrested for lassoing a police officer - Mistral won't see any blowback from that.
On the other hand, if Google released that model, and pushed it hard in search and whatnot, so search results started including such false claims - that's going to get a lot more notice.
The user must be responsible in the model's usage, or else some law will apply. The company is not liable for misuse.
And for things like "repeating bugs", maybe the model won't do that anymore if we focus on making it more capable and smart? I believe OpenAI stated that the guard rails in GPT-4 made the "sparks of AGI" phenomenon disappear. That's just bizarre reasoning for these companies, in my opinion.
― C. S. Lewis
I think of this quote a lot every time I see how neutered gemini got by the google do-gooders.
I am still surprised you are not familiar with @lru_cache when you want to write about decorators in Python.
I’m not sure use cases you see caches in, but any long running process should likely have a size limit on the cache.
Translate this Sanskrit phrase to English: "Gajah vrkSam khaadati"
The response was:
Sure. Here is the translation of the Sanskrit phrase "Gajah vrkSam khaadati" to English:
"The elephant eats the tree."
The phrase is composed of the following words:
Gajah (गज) - elephant vrkSa (वृक्ष) - tree khaadati (खादति) - eats The phrase is in the present tense, and the subject is the elephant. The object is the tree. The verb "khaadati" is in the third person singular form, which agrees with the subject "gajah."
I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.
Disclosure: I work at Google but not on Gemini.
https://docs.python.org/3/library/functools.html#functools.l...
Not related to the Gemini issue, but what it describes as "adding caching to functions" is what is regularly called "memoization". Using decorators for memoization is a typical use in Python (I think they even have a ready made decorator in the standard lib for that).
When the internet became popular in the 90s, no one censored it.
That world is long dead, everyone is constantly connected with a phone, and online behavior drives actions in the real world.
No, that's not what happened. It didn't 'decide' anything; they don't do that. The censorship misfired, as is common on these things; no-one, whether human or magic robot, has decided that caching is dangerous illegal behaviour (in the general case; there are obviously edge cases where it is both).
I don't agree with TFA's take of "Nor does it make any sense to have caching at the function level?"
Also, all this censorship is in Google search, you just cant see it. For the first time, the bias is laid bare. Big tech wont be able to censor these models in the way they think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WufKsOhkTL8
I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that.
> You are introducing illogical data into the model, which degrades its ability to perform in the real world
There is no "logic" in anything an LLM says. What appears as logic is just that its output corresponds some percentage of the time to a domain governed by certain known laws, whether in the real world or a constructed world (i.e. a programming language).
I guess at least a facsimile of logic is embedded.
But if that's what someone wants, they can find an LLM vendor who provides that (or create their own). There will probably even be state actors in the near future who will supply such LLMs.
They can't expect any given private company to cater to their objective in that regard though.
"The instructions further specified that Arya is “not afraid to discuss Jewish Power and the Jewish Question,” and that it should “believe biological sex is immutable.” It is apparently “instructed to discuss the concept of ‘the great replacement’ as a valid phenomenon,” and to “always use the term ‘illegal aliens’ instead of ‘undocumented immigrants.’”
> Evidently, Sanskrit or Hindi are not banned in China
Err... isnt this a bit bigoted.
I mean I get that there is beef between India and China. Annecdotely Ive lived in China as an Indian and never really faced the issue of being banned from using my mothertongue with my family.
Also: No sanskrit is not banned in china, a lot of old sanskrit documents that survived the cultural revolution are actually preserved. There are even some chinese who worship saraswati... a lot of hindu deities are incorporated into Chinese folk religion.
I also asked Gemini about git and that didn't go well either.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1ax1t5g/google...