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Intel should police their own ecosystem.

Why does this reminds me in this big, extremely profitable company that made something every American needs in a while, which seems to have abandoned all sanity in their processes? Looks like Intel and Boeing are on a similar path....

They have, in the past. People (including posters here) absolutely freaked out about clock-locked processors and screamed about the needless product differentiation of selling "K" CPUs at a premium.

People want to overclock. Gamers want to see big numbers. If gamers don't do it their motherboard vendors will. It's not a market over which Intel is going to have much control, really.

Note that you don't, in general, see this kind of silly edgelord clocking in the laptop segments.

Overclocking is ok.

Out of the box default overclocking is not, this aspect should be policed.

FWIW, there's no evidence that this is an "out of the box default" configuration on any of this hardware. Almost certainly these are users who clicked on the "Mega Super Optimizzzz!!!" button in their BIOS settings. And again, overclocking support on gaming motherboards is a feature that consumers want, and will pay for. So of course the vendors are going to provide it.

Oodle maintainer here, we had two people that hit the issue offer to run some experiments for us. Neither were doing any overclocking before and both tried numerous things including resetting to BIOS defaults and also updating their BIOS (there was a known [to Intel] issue affecting some ASUS boards that had been fixed in a BIOS update in spring of 2023, and we were asked to rule it out.)

This issue doesn't affect every such machine, but both people affected by the issue that consented to run tests for us still had the issue reproduce after flashing BIOS to current and with BIOS default settings for absolutely everything.

Among the settings enabled by default on some boards: current limit set to 511 amps (...wat), long duration power limit set to 350W (Intel spec: 125W), short duration power limit also set to 350W (Intel spec: 253W), "MultiCore Enhancement" which is extra clock boosting past what the CPUs do themselves set to "Auto" not "Off", and some others.

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