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Re: Spotify

So much agree here, the offline mode is so beyond being annoying so I even started building my own iOS offline first music app.

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> my own iOS offline first music app

Sadly ironic that apple used to sell this, in the shape of an ipod!

I hold on to mine, it is perfect in every way that a phone is terrible.

It is tiny and 100% offline, just what I need.

Wait... iOS doesn't have an offline music app anymore either? Google replaced the "Play Music" app (which could also play offline music files) with "Youtube Music" a few years ago (not sure if that works with offline files, I switched to a third party app), but I thought iOS still had one (precisely because they used to sell the iPods, specifically the iPod touch which was more or less an iPhone lacking the phone part)?

It does. You can download playlists on Apple Music (or even use your own files with it, a rarity in the post-cloud world).

Maybe OP was talking specifically about the behaviour of Spotify?

To be honest the offline support of Apple Music even though exists, is on par with Spotify. It will bug you about “turn on wifi, you’re offline”, ask you to provide or update payment information, fail at synchronisation time to time with music purchased on iTunes, and overall work unreliably when you just want to listen to some songs you’ve copied from your physical CD’s. Like the whole thing trying hard to push you to use their subscription service.

I’ve never had a problem with Apple Music offline. It works great.

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