Comment by killjoywashere | Hacker News Reader

Comment by killjoywashere | Hacker News Reader

I participated in a couple Vision Pro demos at Apple HQ prior to launch day. One with a security focus, one with a health applications focus. The security profile, btw, is super boring: on the network, it looks like an iPad.

Health applications: pretty cool for education, maybe other things, eventually.

What I think would be compelling, for me, is the ability to use it on travel. To be on a plane and not have to worry about breaking a laptop screen when the person in front of me tips their seat back, not have to worry about someone shoulder surfing me. In yet another boring hotel room? Let's escape!

Now, the problem is that, in many meetings, a laptop is barely acceptable as it is (in some cases, not at all acceptable). So, I still have to bring a laptop. So, my backback is now ... heavier? I'm already carrying multiple devices required by various security policies.

Is this juice worth the squeeze? I can't bring myself to spend my own money on this. And I helped develop an AR device. I'd be happy to use it if the company bought it. But you're in for almost $5k after applecare, accessories, etc.

Where do you work where laptops at meetings aren't acceptable? Not seeing laptops is an extremely reliable red flag for me.

why exactly?

If a meeting is simplistic enough not to need planning and action items, you don't need a meeting. Make a conference call.

If action items are simplistic enough that you don't need to consider calendars for the future, don't need the ability to show the status of existing concerning items, and any reliable information is conveyed via paper, you've got multiple problems.

Mostly you have a culture problem, to put it simply.

I'd probably make the opposite argument. If I'm messing with my computer during a meeting then the meeting probably didn't require me to be physically present. At that point it could've been either remote or async facilitated by software.

This is unless I'm running the meeting and my laptop is plugged into the big screen.

> If I'm messing with my computer during a meeting then the meeting probably didn't require me to be physically present.

I was making the assumption that presentations were excluded (and confusing the issue). A meeting is dynamic between individuals. Relying solely on what you can recall is less efficient than using a device to assist, plain and simple.

If there is any value, at all, in a face to face meeting, then a device can only enhance it. If there is no value, then that consideration has no place in the discussion about how to have the most productive face to face.

multitasking is a myth. you can't futz with a computer and pay attention.

Singletasking is a myth. I can't keep attention without any background task. If not computer, I will doodle on paper or fidget

Doodling at least appears to help with memory recall.

Anecdotally I've always found that when I see a doodle made during a meeting or lecture I get a much more vivid recollection of the actual content.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090226210039.h....

For people with autofocus, not hyperfocusing and slamming desk is harder than trying to focus.

It depends on what you mean by multitasking and the expectations. People multitask from birth.

So you also could not take notes on paper?

People not taking notes is a huge red flag at least, but handwritten notes are fine so laptop is not a must

Who is to tell me in what form I should take notes?

Sounds like a Xreal pro would get you 90% of the way there ?

At 49ppd it's on par with AVP if the goal is just to mirror a laptop display.

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