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Yes, that's the way I feel too. I learned to program on an Apple ][ that I loved, before Jobs started his nefarious business practices. Woz's Apple was cool. Jobs' Apple makes me feel like they want to enslave developers, or at least milk them to the last drop.

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It's only turned really cynical under Cook, chargers no longer included, cables sold separately from chargers to nickel and dime customers, refusal to adopt standards like USB-C unless threatened in court, refusing to pay patent license fee for blood O2 monitoring on the Apple Watch and trying to scalp all the talent from the company instead, anti-competitive behavior in the EU. Jobs version of Apple was pretty benign compared to the win-at-any-cost Cook version of Apple.

HN will call all that as "innovation"

Nonsense. Adobe had a flash to ios system ready to go to allow all flash apps to run, and Jobs deliberately blocked it from working, leading to the eventual death of flash.

Jobs was one of the main bastards behind screwing over engineer's pay.

Under Jobs we had soldered ram and ridiculous upgrade prices, changing magsafe port sizes just because, dropping OS support for official Apple modems when the majority of the world still had dialup, flaking cases and dodgy screens and phones that have to be held the right way, water sensors that react to humidity and void warranty, locking down ios upgrades to prevent downgrading, ebook price fixing...

I feel like that maybe Apple's ideas or innovation has begun to run dry. Now they're just trying to milk every single penny before they become a background player.

2013 was the peak for me. iPhone 6 and Macbook Air 2013 the last good devices.

i have macbook pro m2 at work and just typing into the terminal is laggy. plus random crashes, apps refusing to start no legacy app support.

my windows 10 is much much more stable.

their phones being turned into a super fragile glass brick with no consideration of hand ergonomics is peak hubris.

and the face ID, pure marketing gimmick that doesnt evenb work better than fingerprint or basic camera unlock.

they are purely marketing company now.

First time I've heard Windows being more stable than MacOS, haha. I do own a Pro M2, and the experience is alright. My terminal is fine, but I also do get the crashes, and there's a lot of things that just bug me about the system.

Do you guys feel frustrated that if you were on Linux, you could fix those small annoying bugs or glitches yourself, but since it’s Apple you can’t, and since it’s Apple these bugs won’t get fixed ever at all for being too minuscule, so you have to accept to live with them?

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