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Newer (aka next gen aka Team-managed) Jira projects are pretty solid.

Do jira pages still take 30 seconds to load, and have all the interaction speed of cold molasses? Does it have nice keyboard shortcuts yet? Do I still need to perform an arcane ritual of setup to get the ticket statuses to be what I want?

Linear has been such a breath of fresh air, with such a solid desktop app (on Mac OS) that I don’t ever want to go back. Stuff happens instantly, the layout and semantics are an excellent “90% good enough” that I would happily relegate jira to only the most enterprise of enterprise projects.

At one of the bigger companies I was at we had an on-prem JIRA in the same office building and it was still so slow that I would often forget why I was loading that page

trigger warning please on the Jira stuff

Linear is making (fairly) good on the promises of local-first software. As opposed to "every click is a round trip to the server" software.

No, Jira loading is relatively OK and on par with other SPAs. It's got a CTRL+SHIFT+P style actions menu for tickets which helps cut down on point and click pain (especially for linking issues etc). Setting up statues and workflows and how they map to a board is relatively straightforward.

There are lots of things where Jira falls short, but the pain points on an under-resourced self hosted instance of ten years ago are nothing like the ones you'll find on Jira cloud today.

Does Jira still have multiple flavours of markdown for different fields and editors? Last I used it, it used a different flavour for creating and editing a ticket. Also another flavour for bitbucket. None of these were compatible and it would convert between them in the backend but I was left confused every time when I would have to switch formatting styles

I remember that from a while back, and getting annoyed - it doesn't appear to be something that annoys me at the moment so it might have been fixed, but on reflection I tend to just use the default rich text editor now.

It takes markdownish input but converts it to rich text as you type - so asterisk-space starts a bullet point list, etc.

I actually can't remember if it has a dedicated markdown mode anymore; the rich text editing supports the usual shortcuts that mean I tend to stick with it.

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