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Strong article so far, I'm still reading, but I found it rather jarring to have a cartoon in the middle with a white couple cherishing a baby and a black woman killing one...

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Why is there always someone who needs to read things in like this where nothing exists?

It's somehow very funny to me that we are talking about data transfer (QUIC) but that what happens at "level 8" of the OSI stack can also be complicated depending on what system level 8 runs.

There is no Level 8 as such. Everything happens at the application level i.e Level 7.

Level 8 is a joking way of designating the user. Also refered as "the layer between the keyboard and the screen".

Between keyboard and chair, surely?

PEBCAK, "Problem exists between chair and keyboard"

I think they meant the person and who they are as "level 8".

In other words, if you have this communication protocol, when it reaches level 8 the message might not be delivered or be misinterpreted based on the person. For example in this thread with some people seeing this as racist, some people see it as nothing.

Because those people have a racist mental model of the world.

It is the Baby Yeet meme/Woman Throws a Baby comic by Joan Cornellà.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/baby-yeet

It seems rather likely it was adapted from what was originally a racist meme format, but I doubt the author is aware of that or made a conscious decision to depict it like that. Memes often get adapted with so many edits that their original meaning vanishes. I'm glad we can plagiarize Stonetoss to make positive edits.

Maybe you’re the only one that saw race in this picture

I'm confused. Is it your claim that the brown woman throwing the brown baby like a basketball is white?

What he is saying is he didn't pay attention to that detail, for one reason or another.

That stood out to me as well. I am familiar with the meme, but it is pretty jarring without that prior knowledge. If one of my reports published this under their name we would be having a few words.

Give it a rest. Give us a rest. Don't use tech forums to announce your absurd racial virtue-signaling.

I didn't know fox news had a HN account.

"ThEy DoN't sHaRe My SeNtImEnTs So tHeY mUsT Be A RiGhT-WiNgEr."

Also don't use tech forums to sling around petty insults.

"killing"

It's a weird an uninformative illustration.

If this were a photo, would you expect the infant launched high in the air like a basketball to survive?

Do you expect all memes and jokes to be absolutely harmless and 100% politically correct for every nation/culture/race/gender/<group>?

When doing technical or business work - YES

If for entertainment then things can be unsettling or tuned to one group.

I really do not want to work with the person(s) who downvoted this. These sort of 'jokes' are part of what makes a hostile work environment.

Luckily, this is an internet forum and you don't actually need work with that person.

> I really do not want to work with the person(s) who downvoted this. These sort of 'jokes' are part of what makes a hostile work environment.

So does oversensitivity and overreactions.

You might ask a lot of people in minorities etc if this is an overreaction to "banter".

I have not been on the end of this being a white male.

I expect memes not to be blatantly racist, particularly when they are attached to a technical article.

It's only racist if you are a racist. You brought up skin color where it doesn't matter. Work on yourself.

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