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I like how they fail to mention that the Apple Music App on Windows is hot garbage riddled with bugs. A few weeks ago they broke reordering of upcoming songs, the "play next" feature and I don't know what else.

I have submitted bug reports with exact steps, reproducible on at least two accounts on five different conmputers. Haven't heared back, doubt I'll ever will.

Anyone can recommend a streaming service that isn't Apple Music, Spotify or YouTube Music? Bonus points if I can just add a plugin to my old trusty winamp to use it.

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Cider[0] is a client I've seen for Apple Music. It seems to have pretty good reviews. It is paid software, but it's a one time purchase of $4. Worth a shot!

0: https://cider.sh/

Wow, thank you. Of all things I considered happening when posting my snarky winamp remark this was not something I expected. Will check that out.

The Apple Music app on macOS is also hot garage.

It's incredible how bad it is both for macOS and even on iOS.

I know people like to criticise Spotify's UX/UI but whenever I'm using Apple Music on my partner's devices (she has AM, I'm on Spotify) it's a quite marked difference in snappiness of the UI, Apple Music for some reason has the same weird loading behaviour that the App Store suffers from (and sometimes even fucking System Settings on macOS goes through), and I can't understand how Apple can drop the ball that much in their own platforms...

Apple TV is also somehow hot garbage

I don't understand. These are "just" media players and all split up to do one thing each. How do they all do that one thing so miserably. TV hangs for multiple seconds every single time I download or delete episodes of TV shows and the player is so incredibly bad and doesn't save your progress properly

Huh, it never occurred to me that you could download episodes on an Apple TV. What’s the use-case? I download shows on my iPad so I can watch them when I’m traveling without internet, but my Apple TV is always plugged in. Intermittent connectivity in the home? Maybe bugs stick around because the feature is rarely used?

It's small enough to be carried when you are traveling. You could take it to hotels.

I'm not talking about the device btw. I am indeed talking about the TV app that comes preinstalled on Apple devices. I watch from my Macbook. The TV app is confusingly also Apple TV with a subscription service called Apple TV+

My use case is I've found that, for reasons unknown, the streaming quality is worse than if I download the episodes. Streaming always stays at 720p or lower whereas downloading gets me 1080p every time. And being able to watch things when I move around even with spotty internet

It's definitely one of the worst apps I've ever used in a long time. Finder is another POS.

Slow. The main "Listen Now Screen" is slow. It's an un-cached webview or something, that should be instantaneous.

The "Search area" is on the scrolling side bar on the left, and the toggle for searching between Apple Music and just your own library is on the right. It's not in the toolbar at the top where it should be and where it is on damn near every other macos app.

The lyrics can't expand to bigger, unless you switch to fullscreen mode, and then they're often unreadable because of the background colours.

I can’t do the most basic of tasks on Apple Music on my Windows PC - I literally can’t play music!

I’ve tried:

- redownloading the app

- deleting all local state in the Music folder

- logging out of my account, and logging back in

- deauthorising my PC, then reauthorising it

It just never starts playback, no matter what I do!

Cider works fine. The Music apps on my phone and Mac work fine. Very weird.

edit: plus, they have a lot of problems with music artists getting mixed together - if an artist has a common name, say “Ray”, you’ll see music from other artists with the same name mixed in. Apple’s support totally disclaim responsibility and said I should contact the record label to get them to correct it. This is absolutely ridiculous, and the record label predictably doesn’t care. It ruins recommendations :/

Deezer

I can't exactly recommend it because I haven't used it since 15 years and it surely must have evolved since.

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