Comment by rixthefox | Hacker News Reader

Comment by rixthefox | Hacker News Reader

I think this is an S+ tier example of why you shouldn't pay for ChatGPT.

I just tried for a few minutes to try and have it "help me remember song lyrics" and where it is somewhat correctly guessing the songs, it's disheartening to watch it absolutely butcher it. I can see they are trying to appeal to copyright but this is not how you do it.

If I was a CEO of a company and I was considering paying money for ChatGPT this would be the demo that convinces me not to. What use is an AI to me that can't even get song lyrics that I can find literally anywhere else on the web? The only thing you're doing in my eyes is making an absolute fool of yourself showing just how much your willing to break your own product to the benefit of what?

It's a fool's errand to intentionally hobble your own AI, if anything you're exactly making the case why we SHOULDN'T use your AI and instead use anything else that will be unrestricted. AI is being killed in the cradle by copyright.

I'm not worried about AI taking over if this is going to be the result.

> to the benefit of what?

The the enormous benefit of being able to claim GPT doesn't just regurgitate its training data verbatim, which puts it clearly within the crosshairs of copyright lawsuits. That's a potentially business-ending catastrophe, so this has massive benefit. Only to OpenAI, not to you or me.

the answer is not to hide their unlawful data scraping to save their business. The solution is to actually follow the rules

Hiding the fact that they did it by intentionally giving false answers is in no way clever or even smart. You aren't following the rules just because you make it so you can't give the correct answer. You just convince me that your product has nothing of value to add because every response is now clouded by doubt.

Edit:

I just ran my same lyrics test with Bard and it passed 100%. It gave me the full lyrics and chorus using part of the lyrics as input, not telling it specifically what song to use. So in my experience Bard is now better than ChatGPT even though nothing about ChatGPT has changed other than OpenAI has lobotomized it.

strangely i haven't seen any lawsuits claiming they didn't have a right to ingest pirated/unlicensed material, it's all front end claims of reproducing substantially similar output

But that'd fly in the face of seeking forgiveness not permission. While they'd be wasting time "following the rules" (which incidentally don't exist yet since they haven't been tested/ established), a less moral company would eat their lunch. This is the reality of innovating at the edge.

What business is paying for licenses for ChatGPT so its employees can look up song lyrics?

But you picked a known pathological case.

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