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So if it’s so successful why doesn’t Intel etc just copy this process?

Cost and culture? I don't know that most 20 year intel employees in Beaverton are going to be willing to do night shifts.

Worse yet, Moore's law was basically an automatic monopoly for anybody that had a much more productive R&D than the others. But we are only noticing the gains now, that the law is gone for years already.

Maybe the culture thing is really pervasive. It wouldn't be a first.

To add to what others said here, another salient factor is that in Taiwan it's pretty possible to get late night food, drink, and other things. These things are almost non-existent in the US which would make working night shifts extra rough.

Depends on where the fab is. I agree if we're talking about rural Arizona, but if the demand is there, I guarantee you that someone will open a franchise (or six) down the street and operate overnight to meet that demand. In and around larger cities though, it's not really a problem. There is usually _something_ open, even if it might not be a long list.

apart from NYC (and maybe Las Vegas), I don't know any other US cities that has functioning food places that operate throughout the night abuduntly

do you have examples?

Are we discounting fast food? I can't speak for everywhere, but in Dallas, many chains are open 24/7. Whataburger is a Texas franchise that has been 24/7 for basically it's entire history in all locations. They are closed for Christmas and Thanksgiving only. McDonalds is 24/7 in most major cities. In Dallas proper, there are some smaller (local) chains that are frequently open until 2 or 3am but admittedly they mostly cater to the bar crowd who wants something to eat before heading home after drinking all night. Café Brazil is a local Denny's/IHOP type diner that is open 24/7 including major holidays!

Your addition of "abundantly" makes things more ambiguous, but I think the choices available in most large US cities is _decent_ after midnight. Can you get absolutely anything like NYC? No, probably, not. But burgers, diners, and fast food are all generally available. That's also ignoring 24/7 grocery stores like Walmart that can fill in the gaps if you're craving something hyper specific. Perhaps you can't buy it ready-made, but you can buy the ingredients!

Some things are hard.

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