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Kraken: Privacy Is Not a Crime

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Secrecy is a lie. Privacy is a crime. Not sharing is withholding potential evidence. This is where we are headed...unless we demand the same of governments and corporations, and the powerful.

Not working your soul away is dereliction of duty.

Am I missing something? Why is this Tweet on the front page of HN? Just a statement to spark some discussion?

My question was answered below:

> buildbuildbuild 3 minutes ago

> Context: Kraken is the only US-based cryptocurrency exchange which supports Monero, the top untraceable privacy coin of today.

> Binance, the world's largest exchange by volume, yesterday announced the de-listing of Monero, triggering a price crash of 38%.

That's too bad. I can only speculate that they're delisting Monero because it works.

Because Hacker News is going the way of Reddit and Digg: the more users, the less quality content and discussion

The last line:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

"Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills."

Some privacy certainly is a crime. It's not unethical to commit that crime. Nothing whatsoever restricts laws from only criminalizing unethical behavior.

we have indecency laws that make it a crime to not avail oneself of a private location when particular human behaviours must occur.

its also a crime to invade the sanctity of such things.

its also psychologicaly damaging to be under conitions of constant surviellance.

anyone who thinks its desireable to eliminate privacy must recon with the above.

I agree, but there are questions in my head.

If the "private" information is that you killed 500 people (you're basically a Dexter), what do we do with that private information?

The right to remain silent is a longstanding principle of Western jurisprudence, as are attorney-client privilege, the Seal of the Confessional, etc.

Assuming “you” kept it to themselves, which “you” probably did for quite a while, we don’t do much with that information, because it’d be private.

You can only react to information that you have.

Or rather, I don’t understand the question. ;-)

I think the insinuation is that such information has no right to be private. Or such individuals have no right to privacy. The obvious issue being that to enforce this, no one gets a right to privacy. But all in the same of "peace and safety", so don't worry.

Even a serial killer has the right to privacy.

What they don’t have is the right to kill people.

Those two often get confused!

This is particularly embarrassing when you try to open incognito mode in your browser and you accidentally end up killing half a dozen people instead.

Who is "we"?

well, if "we" know, it's not private anymore. thou it should not matter

Can we stop linking to tweets? There’s 0 context unless you login. Even paywalled articles often give you more than that.

kraken getting hit by the SEC?

If you can't take down crypto, plant your agent (Binance in this case) and destroy it from within.

Context: Kraken is the only US-based cryptocurrency exchange which supports Monero, the top untraceable privacy coin of today.

Binance, the world's largest exchange by volume, yesterday announced the de-listing of Monero, triggering a price crash of 38%.

Kraken's post is in response to a Monero tweet. Privacy coins are akin to cash and legal in most jurisdictions, but are facing aggressive de-listing by exchanges with low regulatory risk tolerances. Kraken stands strong following explicit US laws rather than the extra-judicial whims of compliance teams.

Privacy from the public is absolutely not a crime. Privacy from the government when it comes to finances may be a different matter. It's important to be able to separate these two, which is difficult, in part because governments are making it difficult to do so.

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