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Chinese migrants are fastest growing group crossing into U.S. from Mexico [video]

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There's something I don't understand: I've been taught my entire life that I should respect the rules. Obey the law.

Are people illegally coming into a country going to then obey its rules and follow its laws?

My entire experience as an American has taught me that rules are for someone else to follow. For instance, I get made fun of for following the speed limits. Jobs have taken labor laws as minor hindrances to be worked around at best or ignored outright - these people seem to be finding work after all, aren’t they?

I’m not super comfortable with it either, but it seems to be a country where opportunity is placed above the law.

https://paulgraham.com/founders.html

> 4. Naughtiness

> Though the most successful founders are usually good people, they tend to have a piratical gleam in their eye. They're not Goody Two-Shoes type good. Morally, they care about getting the big questions right, but not about observing proprieties. That's why I'd use the word naughty rather than evil. They delight in breaking rules, but not rules that matter. This quality may be redundant though; it may be implied by imagination.

> Sam Altman of Loopt is one of the most successful alumni, so we asked him what question we could put on the Y Combinator application that would help us discover more people like him. He said to ask about a time when they'd hacked something to their advantage—hacked in the sense of beating the system, not breaking into computers. It has become one of the questions we pay most attention to when judging applications.

Interestingly you've left it somewhat ambiguous as to whether you view these immigrants as morally upright while being somewhat naughty. You could certainly say that they've found an exploit/hack in the system by claiming asylum and could view that as clever and/or immoral depending on the eye of the beholder.

I will say that I don't think the situation is being handled all that well (and I suppose hasn't for decades, but perhaps that just goes to show that there's not much we can do at all), but as a resident of South Texas, I haven't felt any actual problems with my day-to-day life that I can directly attribute to illegal immigration.

> Interestingly you've left it somewhat ambiguous as to whether you view these immigrants as morally upright while being somewhat naughty.

I thought my post was unambiguous. Powerful, successful people (like pg and sama) clearly don't believe the rules apply to them.

Wow that is saddening to hear.

No, they're coming in and then beating up NY cops. When the DA let them off, they also decided to flip off the cameras instead of trying to argue "why they had to do that" - because there has to be some reason.

No, the more people that we let in like that, the more this country turns into that. I'm not signed up for that.

At 5:45 they show how the migrants are given step-by-step instructions on how to sneak in by TikTok videos.

I can't count the reasons I have switched parties, but this is one of them.

So you’ve switched to the party that is blocking any effort to do something about it right now? They’re also the same party blocking funding for Ukraine, with which most of the money would be going to weapon manufacturing in the US by the way, if you care about that.

I think both parties are pretty awful on immigration, it’s crazy we still have such a broken system, and that video shows something has to be done. On this everyone can agree, so the question is why isn’t it happening?

Joe Biden has the executive power to address the border crisis without any action by Congress. Instead of doing that, he and the Democratic leadership in Congress decided to tie border security (though if you actually read it, the bill doesn't even improve border security) to funding for Ukraine and Israel. If the bill passes, they get what they want (borders that remain open, and funding for more war); if the bill fails, they score political points since they can now claim that Republicans don't actually want to fix the border and are Putin's stooges. Win/win for Democrats.

I think I’m with you.

I hate a lot of things the Republicans do. But on NPR (!!) there was a program where they described how Biden restricted asylum in ways where Trump had failed. i think they had interviewed someone who worked in a border facility.

Trump tried to block asylum applications (struck down as unconstitutional), the Biden administration merely found ways to block acceptance instead.

I kept waiting for the catch that explained why it wasn’t as bad as they portrayed — there was none. They didn’t seem biased, there was just no redeeming factor here.

I’m not going to claim then border crossing crowding issue is easy to solve or simple in any way.

However, it does start to feel like a lot of sensitive political issues are just chess pieces…

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2023/02/21/fact-sheet-notice-propos...

The video shows we need to turn people around and have them fix their own countries. There is something to be said for that.

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