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It makes complete sense if you don't strawman comments in bad-faith. This isn't about "allow" or "disallow" - there is no attempt here to abridge somebody's free speech.

Anyone can criticize anything. It takes genuine effort to create a new system that works across an industry - if you think you can do better, go for it - I'll cheer you on.

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There isn't a system, new or otherwise, that works across the industry.

The belief that there can be is a root cause of bad systems like OKRs.

You are entitled to your opinion, but pro tip: Telling people they're wrong when a system is working for them doesn't get the point across. Often those same people are well aware that each system has its flaws and no system is perfect.

I didn't say a system doesn't work in one specific company or situation.

I said it isn't universal and cannot be universal.

Of course, these things are assumed. Nobody actually claims systems to be universally applicable to everyone in every situation. So that is a bit of a nitpick, and not very substantive.

Sorry bud, no strawmen in sight. I was giving you an example of the system failing for me. This is a valid reason to criticize the system. If I had a solution that I had been able to test and validate then I would present it. In the absence of that, there's value in pointing out that it's not a panacea and it may not be valuable for others to jump on the bandwagon

> I was giving you an example of the system failing for me.

"In this scenario that only I know the details of, here is my opinion, and my opinion is correct, which proves OKR is bullshit". You're simply stating your feelings, which nobody can discuss/examine. That isn't an example of anything.

I in no way claimed that I proved OKRs are bullshit. I only stated that they have been ineffective in producing actionable data at the companies I've been at. If OKRs work for you, great. It doesn't mean that they are a universally good solution.

Fair enough, I'll drop it. Have a nice day :)

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