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I am the founder and owner of a business with 270+ employees. I regularly give employees final warnings. The warning always is because of issues directly related to their job (not working their shift, failing at their regular duties somehow), not asking them to do more tasks beyond their job.

If this description of Amazon's pivot process is accurate, then there is something very shady going on there. Probably just the bureaucracy terminating people who disagree with them and making sure they have legal cover for it. Lots of DEI programs pushed by Fortune 500 CEOs require doubling minority employee populations and also unless the company is doubling in size, require the termination of white people. They can't legally say that, so they make up weird programs like this to get to that DEI goal.

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Minorities get PIPped too in Amazon.

This is a good example of creating policies to change stats that are measured. Or something teachers call “teaching to the test”. Amazon can say well, our diversity based hiring practices have increased our hiring of minorities by 150% last quarter! Last quarter we hired more people under DEI policies than ever! We are so progressive ra ra ra !

So if the metric is hiring, not retention, not long term employment then they just let those people go next quarter.. and maybe re hire the following quarter to shift those stats again!

Unpopular opinion, hiring people by DEI initiatives is wrong.

You still have to pass the interview to get in. DEI changes the candidate ingress to the interview pipeline, it doesn't change the pipeline itself. You still gotta know your shit and be competent to get hired. Hiring someone below the bar does their demographic cohort no favors.

This is incorrect. DEI initiatives usually change the test and qualifications for admission / hiring. This was most obvious in "affirmative action" where less qualified minority individuals would be admitted to elite schools over Asian candidates.

Blackrock, which controls most of the Fortune 500 boards, mandates hiring quotas for minorities. Recruiters fulfill this by hiring less qualified individuals over those who are more qualified but not of the politically correct race.

You deleted your previous post that was downvoted to oblivion, so I’ll repeat it on this one: This is just racist, dog whistling drivel.

Starts with an appeal to authority with no proof.

Then attempts to make minorities the root cause of problems, which is flawed because:

1) We don’t know the race of the person in question in the article. If you find out they’re a minority, I’m sure we’ll get an “oh but”.

2) Plenty of minorities (blacks, Latinos, Asians, women, people considered minorities in race or gender) are getting laid off at the moment, and from Amazon explicitly. If you don’t know what I wonder how many minorities you actually know. I already assume not many which leads you to this racist diatribe.

3) Amazon cannot be at one time both, ruthlessly efficient in squeezing its workers, but also loose enough to fire so called “good workers” for “evil less good dei workers”.

Amazon, and all other major, hires and fires in this fashion because they are game of thrones style work sweatshops. Nothing more nothing less. In addition any “dei” initiatives they have are window dressing; white peoples are not getting fired at anyone’s expense.

Please go back to Facebook or TruthSocial and terrorizing your 270+ workers. The rest of us would like to be rid of your racist nonsense.

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