Apple Vision Pro: What About Comic Books?
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However truly native VR applications do excite me a lot, and I think that’s what the author is getting at too. When you take advantage of VR’s immersive capabilities in unique ways it gets a lot more exciting than just a virtual floating monitor.
The resolution comment and bugs do make me realize just how early this tech still is. VR seems as hard as the moon landing and we’re on like Apollo 10… maybe?
From initial playing around with mine, I would say the strength of the device (which the OS doesn't completely lean into yet, but I would bet improvements are in the works for visionOS 2) is the "spatial" part, and I suspect that's the whole reason for its emphasis in the marketing.
That is to say, imagine your terminal as a floating window, but you've also got other windows arranged around your home and office, not just clustered at a desk. Reminders floating near your fridge or break room, weather forecasts near the coatrack, calendar with upcoming events on a wall, Kindle or Books.app floating next to your couch...
Obviously it's a really, really expensive device (and a somewhat uncomfortable one) just to do that kind of thing with, but if you cross your eyes and stare into the future I think you can see the path towards much more refined devices that fill the role of letting you have "virtual stuff" in the same way that you might hang a clock on your wall today.
That's why I mentioned "much more refined devices".
To me it seems obvious that Apple made a headset only because that's the minimum amount of hardware needed, right now, for the functionality they want. What they really want is "Apple Glasses", but they're willing to set money on fire for however long it takes to get there, building out the full-featured software ecosystem along the way so that by the time the mass market likes the idea they've already completely conquered the niche.
I can see why it is cool though!
I would assume that the next iteration for the Mac and AVP integration would be to break out the windows from the Mac and place them anywhere, unconstrained by the concept of a screen.
The big leap that still need to be made is the jump from VR to AR, and much smaller. I think AR will make the idea of people wearing this stuff all the time much more socially acceptable. I can’t see an average person putting on the current AVP to cook dinner.
And I think we can agree that if you don't want to watch the pot, having the timer spatially over it makes little sense, and that little phone in your pocket is probably better suited to remind you...
BTW, guys, a large part of cooking is actually pipelining: for instance, while the pasta is cooking, you can cook other stuff in parallel!
Obviously you wouldn’t pay for an AVP just to set cooking timers, but if you are wearing an AVP, it is handy to be able to do this.
The stuff might not need exact timing, like with baking, but if he is prepping something else on the counter, or gets caught up in a conversation, the timers keep things from going off the rails. He has a tendency to lose track of some of that stuff without the reminders. He also keeps track of how long things take, so he can better plan in the future, as he tries to get all the stuff to finish up around the same time. When it starts getting close to dinner time there are a lot of timers going off and things seem a bit chaotic, so I think it would be easy for things to fall through the cracks.
I don’t think he cooks often, especially not for a group, so it’s not a skill he’s developed where he can just go by feel. The recipe will say something like, “simmer for 10 minutes,” so that’s what he does.
10 minutes later:
"Your spaghetti timer is done."
5 minutes later:
"Your sauce timer is done."
At least this works fine with Alexa, just name the timer.
However, you cannot do this on an iPhone (what?!).
This is high on the list of surprising warts on iOS that has been fixed.
I'm imagining it and I'm not impressed. Post-its on fridges work fine, and why would I ever walk to my calendar or weather information when I have everything right here in my pocket? That sounds like a downgrade. Regarding replacing the Kindle: while I love my Kobo, most people still prefer physical books over ebooks, so I don't see it.
I know I know, people said the same about the iPod, the iPhone etc., but I was not one of them (yep, I'm old). (EDIT: I was highly dismissive of the AppleWatch and EarPods, but I think their success are more because of fashion. I kind of doubt that the AVP will succeed because it'll be fashionable to sport one on your head, but as just said, I was wrong before...)
https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1ai37t7/working_...
One of the attractive features of AR/VR for me is to be able to see sth different than the gray sky out of the window in a big part of the year where I live
At least here there is real weather, kids annoyingly playing the flute, dogs barking or doves procreating. That’s gotta be more exciting than seeing the same Moon rocks and Northern lights.
This van consumes me. Who is driving it? Where is it going every day? What are those things its carrying and why does it never carry them back? I daydream of setting up an overly complex surveillance operation to track the van and follow its mysterious load.
Then my subconscious figures out what was wrong with my code and I get back to work
Gaming is clumsy and disorienting. While the immersion is awesome at the visual level I find it's an uncanny valley to have sight and sound but no touch - a boxing game where you can't feel your opponent hitting you or some shots are or aren't missed or blocked when they should or shouldn't have been.
Doing work doesn't seem great either. The interface is just worse - not as precise. If I'm writing a lot code or prose I want a keyboard. Swype will do for short text - but the typing controls I've seen in VR and imagine are there in AVP? Not a serious replacement. Speech to text is obviously very good, but still wrong enough to need a lot of corrections.
Watching content? Maybe, I guess. I haven't seen anything that's better in VR versus on a screen.
Just don't see a use for these things, though I want to. When I imagine myself in the cyberpunk future I can let my vision of the real world fade out and access an IDE, terminal, or browser and interact with it through thought alone. The AVP stuff just seems like a gimmick to me.
The author's use case of comics is not one I've thought of before, but it doesn't like a killer app to me. Instead it seems more like an experience I have commonly with VR which is like "Whoa, that's neat" followed by putting the headset up and never doing it again.
I just can't believe it seems like we are going to go my whole life without touch in virtual REALITY.
The problem is the killer app is virtual sex. It has always been virtual sex but these tech companies are not going to touch that one.
Not that I blame them if you think about for one second the backlash if Zuckerberg came out with virtual netflix and chill in VR. I think it is so obvious that you can even spend 50 billion in research but not even try to do touch. Totally off limits for the ramifications it would have.
Or else you put up the two pages on the screen at the same time and then they are totally fine. Because they can't be not fine on a 43" in the landscape orientation.
Even when I had 27" it was totally fine to read comics and manga on it.
> And I’m also not going to go sit at my desk with the big monitor to read a comic book
To each their own
> Enter Vision Pro. There are no limits to the page size because the screen is filling your field of view
Is this supposed to be a good thing?
> and then walk up
> ... I went ahead and stitched a few comics pages side-by-side ... The photo at the top of this post gives you a rough idea for what it’s like
Ah, yes. Using a touchscreen of your computer would give you Gorilla Arm Syndrome, but constantly turning your head, repeatedly, in span of minutes to hours is totally not give you a nastiest neckache.
> But the interaction is, at this point, really fiddly.
Yes, the most useful interface for something more than just turning pages (ie zooming and panning) is.. a computer mouse.
No, not impressed.
> display that’s at least 13 inches wide and a little more than 10 inches tall
> There’s a few monster laptops that get close, but I’ll never buy such a beast
Chromebook: 10.22" x 6.66"
13" notebook: 12.20" x 7.48"
14" notebook: 12.26" x 8.80"
More important part, totally omitted in the article:
Even if it would somehow work then it would work only when you are home and/or alone.
It wouldn't work on a bus (and I mean a normal bus, not a US one) or almost any other public transportation, except some long distance trains. You wouldn't take out these and wear them, to read the next issue while you have a spare 5 minutes while at the bus stop or waiting a doc' appointment.
Sure, I'm not a comic connoisseur, but it's really looks like a solution in search of a problem.
It’s nice to see things like this and I think there’ll be loads more.