Remote work morphs into elite status symbol for wealthy, college-educated
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If corporate wanted to reduce the desire for remote - they would have smaller satellite campuses outside the great automobile slums of America.
The wealthy don't care about efficiency, they aren't being rational about this.
They go into the office - see an empty building and say "this is wrong".
But they put the cart before the horse - they should say "why is my company operating just fine without office space?" - that should say something about how horrible open offices are for productivity.
The intangibles that come with in-office work could be addressed by augmented reality meetings (a headset costs a lot less than a year of gasoline).
The ONLY problem I see that isn't addressed with remote work is junior development. This again could be addressed by much smaller campuses and augmented reality.
Remote work is a competitive advantage when it comes to programming.
The premise on it's face is wrong. A lot of big tech companies are forcing their employees to RTO, including Apple, Amazon and Google. If they aren't elite, I don't know who is. I suspect this article is designed to introduce class division into the RTO/WFH argument. Sadly, it will probably sway some people on that basis alone.
Return-to-office mandates in select tech companies worldwide 2024, by number of days. As of January 2024, several major technology companies, including Google, Amazon, Meta, and Apple, have implemented return-to-office mandates requiring employees to be in the office at least three days per week.
Anyway, all this comes down to power, both in terms of market power and the social relations between manager and employee. The elite knowledge workers have something that is a critical factor of production for many businesses. Since this thing - knowledge, a form of fixed capital - exists inside the human mind and is extremely time-consuming to transfer, it has to be leased from the employees. Since it's in relatively short supply that commands a high price.
But that scarcity also converts into other forms of market power: the ability to set non-monetary conditions of sale on the knowledge.
This upsets the social relations of the office, because managers are used to being able to micromanage and physically surveil subordinates. The idea that an employee can set boundaries radically upsets American managers. Next people will be asking for holiday.
The reverse of this is of course at the very bottom end of the market: if your boss can change your shift pattern at the last minute, if you're on a so-called "zero hours" contract, then that's because you're deemed utterly replaceable and have no market power.
For a different example of that split, there are a lot of proud religious fundamentalists in the USA, it was only the decade following 9/11 that "fundamentalist" seemed to be a dirty word (from my perspective, which at that point was going through university and my first job, both in the UK).
Building a massive office, getting visas, and paying staff enough to afford to live within commuting radius of a particular city in the western United States is very expensive.
1) any higher degree => elite
2) $150k or more family income => elite (and this is only counting people being paid a monthly wage for at least, I believe, 4 months of the year, otherwise it's $89k to get you into the top 10%, this is definitely not all Americans)
And if you count worldwide ... let's just not go there. Take off multiple zeroes.
So it is not about manager vs non-manager. I think you'll find managers don't have much decision making power anyway. It is not about directors or CEOs or people who own companies. Elite is nearly everyone that reads this site.
After the dust settles from this I bet there will be studies showing lower wage workers were forced into the office just as much if not more than higher paid counter parts.
While she’s fighting to stay remote my job has absolutely no risk of that, same with my coworkers companies we work with.
Its fucked.
The market for laboratory scientists is fairly saturated and the wages are much lower than you might expect, given the relative importance of the work to society.
I remember reading somewhere that some items in IKEA were essentially home made in places like India or Vietnam. Things like brooms and rugs.
What kind of brain-dead culturally frozen and fragile org, post-covid, would resist or be incapable of managing a remote team at this point?
It is elite because I don't have to commute.
I'm wealthy now in time and proximity.
One of many reasons I think hybrid is super hard and likely worse than full remote, full local or remote with set days in the office for everyone (my personal favorite).
That revenue probably mostly comes from the old school hiring process where employer and employee get to know each other and then jump into a long term contract, right?
I'm surprised Upwork and Fiverr are still so small in comparison. Their model of letting people quickly band and disband on projects seems so much more natural to me in the times of remote work.
For certain tasks, sure. But every position I've held required gathering quite a bit of context before I was able to really be effective. It's not just the tech stack and existing systems, either: it's learning the business to a level where I can better know that I'm meeting the actual business need (rather than just the text on the JIRA ticket).
I'm 53. I've worked at home since 2001, but it happened kinda accidentally. The dot-com-era software consultancy/internet studio I worked for in the late 90s cratered in the fall of 2001, so I hung out my shingle and went back to doing hands-on technical work. This was catch-as-catch-can for a while, but I kept the lights on -- and at no point did I consider renting an office to do it.
Then I joined a startup that didn't really take off, and we BRIEFLY had an office before realizing it was dumb and giving it up (so, like, 4-6 months?). We were traveling all the time anyway.
Then I went back to consulting and worked at home or on the road.
Then I joined my current employer, which has NEVER had an office anywhere, and as such had employees spread nationwide. We used to be cagey about it with customers (who are generally large traditional companies), but since COVID normalized WFH we've been much more open about it.
I miss very few things about an office. When I think about it, what I actually miss isn't the office, but the few moments in my early career where the office was also a place generally full of people whose company I enjoyed even external to the working relationship. That's an unusual thing, and (I bet) something you're more likely to experience in your 20s than your 50s.
I would like to see my boss more often. It's been a couple years now. I haven't seen our VP of SW in person in probably 10 years. But my home office comes with cats, a better coffee machine than any in-person office has, a kitchen I can cook lunch in, and a couch if I want to catch a short nap.
Getting paid for time when you have a cat on your lap is one of the best things in life.
Anyway, RTO is more about fucking over people with disabilities—for unclear reason, because accommodated disabled people are, in my experience, the best people to work with, because they’ve seen real shit—and this attempt to create intra-proletarian dissension is just a distraction, at the end of the day.
Minions must return to office and support CRE valuations!
What job does a poor, uneducated knowledge worker do?
Making a 50-70% higher salary than the median isn’t “wealthy.” That’s just “upper quartile middle class.” That’s a wage employee who depends on a regular paycheck and couldn’t remain unemployed for an extended period of time.
The word “wealthy” doesn’t meant that at all. “Wealthy” means you fly first class. “Wealthy” means you pay for luxury cars with cash. “Wealthy” means you own more than one home.
The median software engineering salary is now at the bottom cutoff for being approved for a mortgage on a basic home.
I bet most of the “wealthy” software engineers who worked in-office in 2018 and are remote now make less today after adjusting for inflation.
There is a massive difference between the lifestyle of the (e.g.) top 5-10%, 2%, 1%, and 0.5%. Those numbers are basically jumping from “still has a mortgage” to “has a 80-foot yacht.”
There is almost no difference in lifestyle when you compare the top 50%, 25%, 20%, 15%, maybe even 10%. It’s the same deal: depending on a continuing wage, getting 1-4 weeks of time off every year but no more, needing to use a financial instrument to pay for kids’ college, having a house and probably a car loan. All of those attributes stay the same.
Walmart is paying $95k per year starting salary.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/07/business/walmart-truck-driver...
I work in manufacturing as IT and everyone is using computers for all kinds of forecasting and estimating along with running the actual production machinery.
Every job that requires physical labor requires knowledge of how to accomplish the task at hand.
1. never knowing anyone on a personal level in the company (no matter how long you've been there)
2. being perceived as a sub-human disposable 'resource'
3. never being promoted
4. often hired as contractors without same benefits as employees
offering people remote jobs is done as much for cutting costs as it is to access more talent. you don't have to spend as much money when they provide everything themselves.
> 1. never knowing anyone on a personal level in the company (no matter how long you've been there)
Good. My relationship with my colleagues should be based on respect and professionalism. I don't need to know them on a personal level, nor do I want to.
> 2. being perceived as a sub-human disposable 'resource'
I worked for 15 years prior to the pandemic in office. All companies perceive you as "sub human disposable resource". Just wait for a market downturn, and you will see that I am right. The only answer to this is treat your employer as "disposable employment that you need to pay bills"
> 3. never being promoted
Being promoted is for fools. You get more money by job hopping into a higher salary every couple of years, more or less.
> 4. often hired as contractors without same benefits as employees
Never happened to me as a remote worker. But the daily rates for some contractors I know give me pause, and I wonder if I should pursue this instead.
Re 3: This works... for maybe the first 10 or 15 years. After that, switching too often can be a red flag, limiting your ability to land the better jobs.
I moved out into the country into a more blue collar area. On the coast, I was a nobody. But out here my income alone sets me apart. I inhabit many of the same social spaces in town as the doctors and lawyers. And even they don't get to work from home! Even amongst the elite its a luxury.
It's awesome - I'm not going to go back into an office anytime soon. But I am completely clear-eyed that it is a unique privilege. It's hard to act entitled about it knowing there is absolutely no one in my circle who would give me a shoulder to cry on.
"Some college" is now ~60% of the population (closer to 2/3 in recent generations), so a similar characterisation on the wealth axis would be households with USD 100k or more in (pre-tax!) assets; holding the equivalent of a few cars or a small condo also does not strike me as being very "elite".
(in short, it would appear that "elite" in US discourse has become as meaning-free as "middle-class")
Only knowledge jobs generally can work remotely. Robotic avatars are a long ways away for the other jobs.
I mean... it would be pretty hard for a plumber, electrician, construction worker, etc. to work from home.
My pet insurance provides something similar, where I will call a veterinarian outside of office hours that can help my triage potential emergency issues.
> "One thing appears to become clear: The chasm between the sectors in the workforce is likely to only get wider."
thats the real subtext here. and i agree.
CRE funds are so determined to get employees back into the office (while their asset class implodes) that they'll sponsor any piece of journalism that will help toe the line. Since last year it's been a steady drumbeat of articles claiming remote work is over or is "bad" for morale. And the data doesn't seem to line up.
Salaries for blue collar jobs will go up and for white collar jobs down.
Not really, because there's a lock-in due to job specialization. If the job you're proficient at requires you on the line, you won't see a dime more for being there, because there's no alternative.
Which means, if any raise happens, it will go to lines of work where remote is an option - white collars jobs mostly.
Blue-collar workers are limited to a viable commuting distance. If employees don't like the rate of pay, they have limited options, which is why many in those fields have formed unions.
White-collar workers who don't like the rate of pay can look elsewhere around the globe.
I would note that WFH is beneficial to all parties (except commercial real estate). There's not only fewer cars on the road at key times, but remote workers can run errands at odd hours, allowing workers with less flexibility to complete their errands faster as there's less traffic to contend with during "rush hour" time blocks.
Also, WFH isn't for everyone:
* As much as people love their family, being around them 24/7 takes a toll
* Some people like the social aspects of office work.
* Remote workers are less likely to move up the food chain unless a company is 100% distributed (pure speculation).
I really don't understand why WFH is being touted as evil or elitist. The evil doers are the execs cutting those workers, forcing life changes, and making people miserable, all for financial gain atop already padded compensation packages.
UK-specific, but for political reasons our local government tier has been investing in commercial real estate for the last 15 years or so[2].
I've no intention of going back, of course. Someone else can take one for the team.
[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/pension-funds-feeling-pain-c...
[2] https://www.nao.org.uk/reports/local-authority-investment-in...
I'd find it more likely that anyone with a rationally-managed pension would find they are (and always have been) diversified enough that things which benefit the wider economy (ie WFH) bring them more gains overall than sporadic losses concentrated in specific sectors.