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I don't think Apple wants you to use Mac apps. They want developers to make Vision Pro apps. That's why the Mac integration is the minimum they could get away with.

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Good luck with that. Devs made the iPhone a hit and Apple demonized them over it. Can’t imagine too many are eager to make the same mistake twice.

There are enough devs that love Apple and have a burning loyalty toward them, that this is not something I would worry about. Even if it started to become a problem, Apple has enough cash to make a lot of apps, and could subsidize this for an eternity if necessary to make it work. Apps will not be a problem.

Depends on what they want it to be.

For sure there will be some hardcore indies that just love developing for vr.

There will probably be some game studios ready to go.

TikTok will probably be there.

But, why would Netflix, Spotify, every productivity tool…go out of their way to work on this thing at a time where most are diving deeper into PWA’s?

For spatial computing, they’re going to need to improve the dev situation or accept that safari is the star of the show.

Do you think Netflix and Spotify are really needed (genuinely wondering)? Netflix maybe because of exclusives, but I would think most people with Vision Pro are also going to have Apple Music. With their TV and Music offerings, it might actually be better not to have Netflix/Spotify etc.

Obviously many people use Spotify over Apple Music and want to use it.

How do you know? Where do you get the numbers? Vision Pro isn't even out yet so I'm curious how you could know this. Do you have inside-Apple insight? Such as how many of the people who ordered Vision Pro are on Spotify vs Apple Music?

Yep, I’d say if this thing can’t sell beyond the Apple services subscribers, it won’t exist in 5 years.

Have you been paying attention to everything Apple has been doing in, say, the last week?

VisionOS is pretty limited right now and seems like a much larger leap to justify that iPad vs iOS was.

Hope they are not really betting on that, think it's clear to everyone that OS fatigue hit when they had 3 OSes and lots of companies stopped bothering after that didn't pan out as worth it now this would make 6 OSes...

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