165 m private submersible superyacht
migaloo-submarines.com
migaloo-submarines.com
I don't think either of them have ever been built, they're basically just Kickstarters for ultra-rich people.
Edit: There's a link for Migaloo NFTs on OpenSea in the footer and a fanciful floating habitat that looks like a seasteaders wet dream. This does not look like a serious project. The entire site is nothing but renderings. U-Boat Worx at least ships the NEMO submersible so they kinda know what they're doing.
Like https://www.pangeosyacht.com/projects, an $8 Billion „Terayacht“ maybe launching in 2033. Until then they sell NFTs for a place in the virtual Unreal Engine version of this (also still to be built).
The design studio behind that (https://www.lazzarinidesignstudio.com) has many renderings of vehicle concepts, but nothing realized yet.
Except for one thing, the Songball https://www.lazzarinidesignstudio.com/the-songball. A little plastic speaker that plays back one song you can record yourself, starting at 20€ (https://www.songball.com/?lang=en).
[1] https://www.2luxury2.com/phoenix-1000-the-largest-private-un...
[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20111128072852/http://www.ussubm...
Life is tough when you're a multi-billionaire.
admittedly something with that kind of tonnage would have a massive flywheel, but if money isn't a hindrance..
[0]:https://www.seakeeper.com/seakeeper-products/seakeeper-40/
Performance craft = stripped down to weight as little as possible, adjustable bunks, no showers, no kitchen, the toilet is usually a bucket.
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifestyle/city-water-sea-tu...
Usually they're schemes to bilk the gullible of some $ by crowdfunding or NFT scams.
Such as:
I don't think any of them are pictures... they look like renderings.
Maybe these are just renderings to market the idea, but I would have no confidence I would get what was advertised if anything.
Then there is the practical and comfort aspect that other people have mentioned.
Is this cosplay for DrEvil?
[1] Other than a small amount of hot air.
I think the implication was that nobody bothered to check, which is humorous and so we are willing to jump straight to it. But I suspect the truth is subtler if still as dumb. A tall vessel is likely to have a large draft, so a dry spell may mean bridge clearance but getting stuck on a sandbar (or worse, bedrock). There may be very few days a year where the water level is high enough to avoid sandbars but low enough not to clip the bridge.
I’d understood that SUBSAFE was a comprehensive program applied to U.S. Navy submarines by the Naval Sea Systems Command, not merely a published standard with which one could comply without extensive, ongoing involvement by NAVSEA, which presumably has no mandate to support foreign yacht builders.
Either that or fund any FTL research I could get my hands on. I want to break that particular barrier.
Migaloo:
https://www.queensland.com/nz/en/places-to-see/experiences/n...
Fun fact: I was incredibly lucky to spot if myself off the Whitsundays (Queensland, Australia)
Toys are neat. I dunno, if that's what you want, go for it. I sorta feel like you can do better.
ChuckMcM has more on them
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_submersible_implosion
this sub "only" reach -250m , but that it's anyway mattern of concerns;
- there are serious possibilities they don't delivery, not necessarily because it's a scam, but fore the same reasons of the previous point: technical problems requiring re-designing and re-engineering inflating the costs, burning budgets;
- the success in rescuing people trapped in a submarine is very low, because the environment, because the lack of related technology, experience, etc, see here for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submarine_and_submersi...
Onestly ? If I have all that money I go "classic" : tropical island.
Which makes me wonder. After Thiel and all bug out, who is going to host the post-apocolypse internet?
What we need is a startup that will use GenerativeAI to simulate the internet and wayback, but hosted with a small nuke or maybe geothermal.
Having seen that, I’d certainly invest in a pressure hull hangar if I were so inclined.
See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-400-class_submarine
It's smart safety design.
They might pressurize the crew spaces, a little, but it's really not possible to crank up the air pressure meaningfully for any duration, too hard on the body, and totally lethal if they come up too fast. On that subject google up "saturation diving" for some frickin' horrors. Those dudes make bank, but whew, talk about earning it.
I read their adverts to mean that the ship was so expensive even the helicopter got it’s own pressure hull. But I should understand it as the helicopter can’t do without a pressure hull, and the special part is that it’s _separate_ from the human hull.
Saying that though, I have no idea how it would work legally in ports. I'm guessing you'd have to stay on surface in most territorial waters without some kind of crazy custom private clearance.
I live in Australia and I don't reckon authorities would be very happy if you decided to submerge in the middle of Sydney Harbour!
Why? The ultrarich could afford the most environmentally friendly propulsion ( e.g hydrogen for submarines ) . But as if climate change wouldn’t be a thing, the ultrarich simply don’t care about their CO2 footprints. Do they really think they can buy another planet?
As an early funder of Star Citizen, I cannot feel superior about this.
For some reason the styling reminds me of the Cyclops sub from the game: https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Cyclops
No, this ship is meant for crazy parties and expeditions. Amusingly, just because it may happen to contain a ton of drugs for their personal consumption doesn't mean they're trying to smuggle anything.
If you bring a submarine to market, intelligence agencies and smugglers will absolutely be interested in it.
That said, this is a submersible. If I understand correctly, that means it doesn't operate independently, but in tandem with a conventional vessel. So that may be far less useful.
I read that a typical load in a narcosub was worth about 100 million dollars and a narcosub itself costs 2 million dollars. Two narcotrips will not only pay for the submarine but also make a huge profit, your idea that smuggling is for those low on the totem pole and that it has to be dangerous is something that you invented.
I think that the future for the drug smuggling is computer controlled submarines, and I'm not even talking about AI. I think drug producers will pre-program a route for a submarine that will autonomously navigate until the destination where it will be picked by a receptor.
I read that it's extremely hard to spot submarines, I can only imagine the kind of things that will be smuggled once there are functional submarines of the size of a big fish.
I don’t know about automated subs though, as three guys in a shitty boat can’t really be beat on price. An automated boat would be easier to catch if it was spotted but I suppose you could also put some trap on it to sink it fast when it’s boarded. We were only able to capture one semi submersible because they are very easy to scuttle.
Also, it would be way way easier for us to track this sub versus what’s out there today. It’s way louder, I guarantee.
I don’t know about airplanes, but I’m a SWO qualified former naval officer that was onboard a sub hunting platform that we used to track narco boats and subs in different deployments, so I can tell you about ships and a little about subs since they share many similarities. I guarantee this type of sub isn’t used by narcos.
I mean, size isn't stealthy. And it's not necessary for cocaine. It's the same reason that they smuggled coke on private planes instead of hihacking 747s.
If the drug trade doesn't work, they probably have the expertise to get involved in navel drones.
> The [d]rone submarines are essentially identical, suggesting series production of a refined design.
They also found a "narco surfboard" which presumably disguises drug shipments in an abandoned surfboard. In the arms race between traffickers and enforcers, I'd imagine both sides will be continuously developing increasingly sophisticated technology for underwater smuggling, especially given how much money is involved - so I could totally imagine a high-tech manufacturing industry emerge as a byproduct. I would also find it quite funny :)
1. http://www.hisutton.com/Narco-Drone-Submarine-Found-In-Spain...
Didn't something similar happen with U.S. muscle cars during Prohibition?
The world could be made a permanently (slightly) better place instead of building this.
It does still feel like a poor use of the world's finite resources, but I completely understand how it's not the individuals place to allocate resources effectively.
And jobs are an opportunity cost - the people who would be working on this supervillain fantasy are not doing anything else. What could they, or would they be doing instead?
If building a submersible superyacht adds to the world, then well and good. Personally, I find the opportunity cost to humanity of doing so highly suspect. But I don't think I, or anyone, has a perfect picture of all the knock-on effects from particular money flows. (I think this is why a free market can have benefits.)
Jobs are not good because they are jobs, they are good because of what they accomplish, and should be measured by that yardstick.
Perhaps if the tax rate truly rose to somewhere near 99% as individuals reach the billionaire mark, we'd see whether these folks truly are philanthropists or if they just play them on TV.
It's ok if there's an excess of materials and the shipbuilders have nothing better to do.
More likely it will slightly drive up the prices of batteries, etc. And maybe the yacht builders would have otherwise gone to work making sailboats for normal-rich people, or gone into defense, driving down the price of labor there, and allowing taxpayers to get their next destroyer for a hair cheaper.
Or, worst case, there'd be no demand for these shipbuilders, and they'd have to reskill as something else. Maybe they know how to do fiberglass layups and would try making surfboards, I don't know.
In short, I don't worry so much about wasting money per-se, as about luring people and resources away from better uses.
Kind of like VC's role for the last 20 years. "Greatest minds of my generation", etc.
Yep.
Getting back up to the surface might be a challenge, though.
…it’s got solar panels.