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US historians sign brief to support Colorado's removal of Trump from ballot

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Won’t work without a conviction. Not sure why there were never charges brought against the guy who sent his supporters to the capitol to subvert the election. Not like there isn’t evidence. It happened on national tv. “Go to the capitol and fight like hell” people go and fight like hell, go to prison for fighting like hell. (On the day the election was to be certified, specifically to block the certification). Guy who sent them doesn’t get indicted. Seriously can’t figure out why.

Apparently historians only read the first 3 sections of the 14th amendment and failed to get to the 5th which explicitly states that the execution is left to the federal government not the states.

That's not at all what section five says in the letter it the spirit of the letters. And disingenuous of you to suggest it.

It says "The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article."

What law did Congress (federal not state legislatures) pass to allow states to enforce this? Oh that is right, none.

Typically the federal government doesn't need to pass a law to allow a state to do something. The states have the right to do their business as they see fit except for when they specifically don't.

They specifically don't have this authority according to section 5...

Worked so well in 1860

I don't think the 14th Amendment existed in 1860.

it didn't.

There was still a successful effort to keep the popular Republican candidate off the ballots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidentia...

The section you are talking about is marked as [citation needed]. So, I googled it and this[1] was one of the first results and it seems to disagree with that analysis. FactCheck.org[2] also looks like it agrees with the USA Today article.

[1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/01/08/fal... [2] https://www.factcheck.org/2024/01/posts-distort-history-in-c...

Wait so popularity matters? What about the wisdom of the Electoral College?

Congrats, now you know the whole "it's an anti democratic scam" is a thought terminating cliche that doesn't reflect reality.

Personally I think politically the US is way too far down the normalization of deviance road. My attitude is if your going to ignore the 14th amendment and put Trump on the ballot why even have laws.

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