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So don't install the app. Simple as that, if the developer wanted you to be a user of their app, they'd have put it on the App Store too.

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IOS is a good platform because it forces large app developers that the users have no leverage over to behave. Now that is gone, unfortunately.

"No leverage"? What does that mean? I can choose not to install their apps. That's all the "leverage" I'm entitled to.

Why? Up until now I was entitled to choose a strong platform that forced the developers to play nicely. Now I lost that so indeed as you're saying, not using the app is my only choice.

But that's bad, I want the strong platform back. I left Android just few years ago precisely because I liked the guarantees of the iOS platform - now it's going to be just another shitty privacy nightmare like the hellscape of Android I left.

I don't understand why people can't just buy an Android if that's what they like.

Your argument works just the same the other way.

> I don't understand why people can't just buy an Android if that's what they like.

I don't understand why you people can't just use the apps they trust and let me use the ones I trust.

I should not have to buy a different device to have the ability to put the software I want on it, and the hardware vendor shouldn't be able to get in my way.

Why did you buy the device in the first place if it doesn't do what you want? And why do you think you are entitled to force its satisfied users to your ways? Just sell it, make a different choice and let us be happy with what we got.

This assumes there is one and only one reason to buy an iOS device, and it's because the platform is locked down. But that's not true is it? Is that the one and only reason you like iOS?

No, but it's one of them, and imho a very important one. You recommended I don't use the apps - I recommend you don't use the device. It's not like it's not possible to live without iPhone in Europe.

The magnitude of our recommendations differ quite a lot. The phone is the most important thing in your life. Changing it is very expensive, both in money and in your own time.

Changing which app you use is, in most cases, a far less costly endeavor.

If you were upset that an injustice was occuring where you lived, would you want people to tell you to move to another country?

So why did these people buy the device in the first place? They knew what they were getting into. Why do they have to break it for the ones who actually wanted it?

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