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Trolls have flooded X with graphic Taylor Swift AI fakes

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Most of it is gone from Twitter after Swift fans started doxxing the posters involved, including posting full names, email address, education, and physical address

I got curious yesterday and had a search around. Most of it is floating around 4chan /b/. Most of it is low quality and quite obviously AI. There was one funny/cursed one with Trump that I laughed at of slightly higher photorealism.

Good use of doxxing

Good to know doxxing is okay so long as it's against someone you don't like because they insulted a celebrity people have an unhealthy attachment to.

Hard to see how this isn't "rules for thee but not for me" just applied to an act that ruins people's lives. But hey, they typed in a sentence or two into a chat prompt and posted the resulting image, they must deserve it.

Until legal systems fully catch up with the ramifications of such immoral actions, social pressures— such as doxing— is totally acceptable to reduce the engagement of such disgusting behaviors becoming mainstream.

Normal, respectable, people would never engage in such behavior and those who choose to do so should feel the full force of social pressures to lesson the chance of others following suit.

Your defense— of such disgusting behavior— suggests that you are implicitly ok with sexual assault, rape, or general degradation of women. You should seek help with your view and I hope the women in your life know they are in danger.

Drawing a line from posting an AI generated image to being okay with rape is psychotic and certainly not the moral high ground you think it is. Nor is defending doxxing because of an unhealthy attachment with a celebrity who you feel insulted personally on their behalf.

Print out this exchange and show it to the women in your life (if there are any), then let everyone here know their response. Your abhorrent behavior is only protected by the anonymity of the web. Seek help.

You keep attacking me thinking I'm a) a man and b) am the the "boogy" kind of man that fits the target of all this overeactive nonsense where having arguments about free speech somehow brings up rape. Hence the word "psychotic" not feeling out of place.

But just as well, while we're making unfounded assumptions: you should show this exchange to the only woman in your life. You could tweet it to her and show her how you so valiently defended her honor and solidified how important you are to her. Of course she would never see it and never care because that's how parasocial relationships work. No amount of hystrionics and virtue signaling will ever get her attention or her validation or the supplanted parental love that arguments like this suggest you desperately need.

If you think ‘print this out’ is attacking then you are incredibly thinned skinned. Not only do you have no morals, you are also a coward.

Lol you know at times like this I have to remember the words of my great great grandmother: "Never argue with a swiftie, because they're fucking insane and too dumb to know it"

I can kinda see both sides here. I definitely wouldn’t want people using AI to maliciously depict me beside Trump etc. However, I also don’t think people should be punished for thoughts or art, be it human or AI.

My own solution is to simply not appear online but I understand that’s not possible for celebrities.

How would you propose we solve the problem of AI generated desecration, if it even is a problem?

Is this sarcasm?

We're still talking about Photoshopped pics on the internet, for all intents and purposes.

Not at all. AI generated images are— for all intents and purposes— are real images as viewed from the average viewer. There is no distinguishable feature here that is different from "revenge Porn", where revengeporn is a blanket term for an individual distributing non-consensual images whereby average viewers would assume the individual of the attack is the individual in the content.

The argument that it's just "photoshopping" is so outdated— and blatantly ignores the advancements in AI and deepfake technologies— that it frames your argument in a such a bad-faith position that it isn't worth engaging with you. Modern AI can generate highly convincing and realistic content, making it distinct from traditional image editing.

I've seen plenty of photoshopped pictures that look just as realistic as a real photo. There's also the possibility to make realistic images in Blender and Unreal Engine, among other 3d programs. It's just trendy to hate on AI things these days, even when they do the same things that have been possible without AI for decades. Stop with the pseudoscience rationalizations on why AI is worse.

Al Gore put it best : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM

I was thinking today about an Instagram or Twitter like clone that only allowed pictures taken through the app to be posted. You could use a model like the one TikTok released recently to do a depth map of the image and make sure it wasn't just a picture of a picture.

How would you bootstrap such a thing? I imagine offering a fraternity or sorority a portion of the company to get their members posting and then ad blitzing their campus and hope to spread from there.

Please don't. We don't need more closed ecosystems and app-only technology. I don't believe that you'll be able to actually secure it so in the end we'll just have more software that doesn't respect the users and not be any better off for it

Doesn't the Tiktok model creates a fake depth map from what the picture would be so if you fed it into a picture of a picture you'd actually just get a depth map of the original picture not a flat plane.

You'd need to verify through the actual device camera sensors.

I believe BeReal is kind of like this, with an additional time constraint.

Lapse as well. And Poparazzi before that. Hard to make money so they never seem to last long.

Hard to make money without the network effect.

Plenty of competitors can stand up a usable, competitive app.

Didn’t Casey Neistat do this already?

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