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> CEO Calhoun to address investors in Jan. 31 earnings call

Of course, the short-sighted investors will drive the stock price down, and Boeing will cut more corners in other plane models, instead of driving the stock price up to fund safety efforts.

The entire world relies on Boeing and Airbus, if they shut down the world's economy will grind to a halt, FedEx/UPS/USPS/DHL will stop functioning, executives can't travel, emergency medical care will cease to exist, families will be isolated, and tourism will die.

Their budgets for safety efforts and R&D for the transportation of ALL of the above and trillions of dollars worth of global economy should NOT be at the mercy of some armchair hooligans on Wall Street.

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Is this comment tongue-in-cheek? We all know any increases in the stock price are certainly not going to fund "safety efforts" unless "safety efforts" has become a euphemism for "executive bonuses."

the safety of the lifestyle to which the C-suite has become accustom is paramount.

I don't care about the bonuses, that doesn't affect me. One thing is for sure, if budgets get cut, safety WILL get cut, and that does affect me.

Clearly the solution is to split them up into working market competition again rather than creating a single point of failure in the US economy.

It’s worse than the too big to fail banks at this point.

At minimum we need to align in incentives. CEOs and Boards held accountable, with their personals assets and in case of system issues jail

You know there are other aircraft manufacturers right? Embraer, Bombardier, Mitsubishi etc. Sure they can't just spin up a fully working airliner production line tomorrow, but Boeing going away isn't an apocalypse level event.

OK so maybe we should collectively agree as a species to bid up the stocks of these companies before bidding down the stocks of Boeing so that they have time to ramp up production.

How many of those other vendors named are US companies? I'm sympathetic to the idea of attempting to keep US capabilities in this field a viable option. Sadly, those efforts were bamboozled to look like a boondoggle instead of actual strategic value.

Not being a US citizen, I don't have much sympathy. If the US degrades its strategic military capability by playing capitalist race-to-the-bottom sillybuggers, that's their lookout.

> Embraer, Bombardier, Mitsubishi

Except for Embraer, which has a foothold in the regional jet market, none is relevant.

Mitsubishi is not able to bring a regional jet to fruition and Bombardier (which designed an excellent plane) is now Airbus (the A220 series).

Given a gap in the market I don't see why Mitsubishi or Bombardier couldn't fill that gap. Bombardier only sold their airliner capability due to Boeing/US trade fuckery. Mitsubishi can make fighter jets, rockets and warships so I don't see why an airliner is such a stretch.

Again, sure they don't have that capability today, but GP seems to think if Boeing goes away we'd be doomed.

Unfortunately, Boeing gone today won't make muchbissue other than a blip of inconvenience for maybe 3-5 years. Airbus will easily pick up the slack. What scares the western world is Russia and especially China will flourish. Take EVs, we all praise Tesla and mock slowmo Toyota, meanwhile BYD just overtook Tesla in Dec 2023 making Tesla on path to be Solyndra for Biden. I already put money to China aviation industry stocks for the long haul.

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