Show HN: Atlas – GIS and interactive maps in the browser
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Because there are quite a few data visualisation options around these days, many re-imagining subsets of standard GIS functionality from 20+ years ago, into their own online, collaborative, friendly UI (<-- what Microsoft used to call "a wizard"). It's very impressive but at the same time, the unique contributions of such projects are often in the areas of visualisation and UI, rather than in the area of geography. Which are important in their own right!, but will not necessarily be the primary consideration of some categories of user.
On the other topic of online offerings: Putting performance aside, a significant business objection to online GIS - especially regarding large or long term projects - is in the notion that it transfers (some) custody, security, continuity, redundancy of, not just your work, but also your tools, to a 3rd party, making your access subject to the ongoing wellbeing of that 3rd party enterprise.
i.e. My business requires certainty that, should the need arise, I will definitely be able to access the entire functionality over all working files, 5+ years from now, regardless of what happens to 'FancyMapsWeb Inc.' over the intervening years.
It’s success comes from having a good enough GUI these days.
GIS is a pretty big bottleneck often.
I do like how Felt includes QGIS integrations as a marketing point. I feel like tools like these are great compliments, but not wholesale replacements. "The new standard for GIS software" is a gross overstatement. If I normally deal with data in the multi-GB range, limiting my uploads to 250MB seems woefully insufficient.
And I think far too many people have experienced data loss when any new platform goes under. Both Atlas and Felt have "sign in with Google" but not Microsoft OAuth which just seems odd to me unless they truly aren't targeting the existing desktop GIS user community. Import/export from OneDrive/O365 would likely be a selling point to many GIS users.
I think you're on to something here, which is that bytes stored isn't a great price discriminator for this class of software. The SaaS business model for Sentry or Notion succeeds because bigger teams store more content and have a higher willingness to pay.
For mapping applications, the county government GIS analyst might work daily with a 10GB aerial raster or parcel footprint dataset and be willing to pay $100 for a slicker solution, while a boutique real estate sales office stores a couple hundred dots (kilobytes of data) and is willing to pay $XXXX for the same solution!
It would be nice to have some plans with listed prices in between "Free" and "Enterprise" ("book a demo"). For comparison, Felt has $30/mo and $90/mo plans.
Calling yourselves "the new standard for GIS software" seems like overly strong branding.
[1]: https://felt.com/
(Discussed on HN here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38250459)
Edit: and of course, just as I submit this, atlas decides to show up, with an illegal cookie banner. Any other page takes just as long to load, it does nothing for literally 5 minutes and then loads all at once. I've never seen this behaviour on another site and HN works fine so I'm not sure that's me. Felt is looking like a great option by comparison!
So far the functionality looks kind of wide but thin. Lots of features but each one isn't fully cooked yet. For instance, you can create comment threads, but you can't resolve them - just delete them.
Various functions are also a bit buggy or clunky. I tried some vector operations on built in datasets, and they were just greyed out with no explanation.
Is there an API? Who knows. Hopefully there will be.
Overall, impressively easy to use.
I also hope they add map data authoring features to it.
The front landing page needs to do a better job of selling what it does, particularly the range of vector and raster analysis features, which is pretty impressive.
Just signed up, will report back. Why is this awesome to me?
I have had a passion for GIS as a hobby my whole life, but neer anything deep... until recently I have been doing a lot of art, and I want to make GIS Map art.
I have been using a number of various tools and grabbing open data from places like OpenTopography, USGS, municipality resources, etc.
Further, I love GIS based data science, and especially how informationally dense maps and GIS can be. They are wonderful. (think of how informative looking at a full 3d model of an games to see all the details of a level, objectives, risks, resources. GIS/Mapping is intrinsic to communicating the world around you.
So - I have been looking for the right tool(s) to use - and devour stuff like this.
Looking forward to coming back here with a review after I dive into this for a minute.
The community maps are freaking beautiful. I am sad I hadnt found you earlier!
Some of your community maps deserve their own HN posts, such as the global submarine cable map:
https://app.atlas.co/projects/ft2YpKbX2NgOZueSPSTa?loc=16.38...
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Your activate email link takes you back to the same page: https://i.imgur.com/0NKEeXG.png rather than logging you in.
Adblocker prevents it from loading (ublock origin) - so have to white list it.
Please partner with https://opentopography.org/about/partner
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I'd love to be able to duplicate a community map into my workspace and then do work on them - Maybe you can ask people when they make a "community map" if they can license it with "credit creator" appropriate license type?
For example - the ecological California map in hexagons is wonderful, and I want to duplicate it, and export it and print the hex version of California out with the topological height map applied to it...
https://i.imgur.com/YFXkgQh.png
https://app.atlas.co/projects/RHOMLpu0kDJLDsCNyLYI?loc=-122....
Other submarine cable maps have been posted to HN before [1]. The one on https://www.submarinecablemap.com is more interactive and provides more information that this map on Atlas.
Also why I mentioned it...
What I noticed is the Infrastructure Tab, and reminded of how an infra map was pulled from some kids thesis because they felt it was a threat to have a map of communications infra in public hands.
You can get the entire ArcGIS suite for $100/yr with the home license.
I'm really looking for what's next!
Imagine if maps.google.com had brought you to a video when it first came out.
Close tab.
I really want a news application that is rendered visually as the Globe. Then a user can drag, zoom, and pan around the world, similar to Google Earth.
The difference being, this news app overlays current trending news stories on the physical location of where it is happening in the world.
Maybe I can manage this idea with this underneath?
It was amazing. Unfortunately there were crimes committed on stream, notably a mass shooting in New Zealand. They shut down the map view soon after that.
A news broadcast would be feasible, because presumably the streamers would be verified reporters.
Really cool idea. I love it.
It took me some time to realize that you have to scroll to see the icons on the map. Maybe you can run the function you run on scroll also on load.
I see that you posted a Show HN 2 years ago, maybe you can post another one.
https://blog.gdeltproject.org/an-interactive-realtime-map-of...
Could also have a global weather data layer/view, since that'll be relevant for extreme weather events.
It does remind me a bit of Snapchat's location stories on the map / I think other social media platforms have similar previously.
But that pricing page is a massive turn off. I can't see the functionality or see the pricing without booking a demo with some sales people? No thank you.