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Well this is worrying. I also have no interest in upgrading from Monterey. I have all automatic updates disabled except security patches enabled as well.

I'm super glad now that I've gotten into the habit of disabling wifi when I'm not using the machine.

I absolutely cannot stand computers doing things without my say so.

Years ago my Windows machine forcibly did a restart and patch installation while I was working. It just exited every app I had running and rebooted. Cost me several hours of work. Talk about being instantly livid.

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I am in the same situation as you, including disabling Wifi when putting the machine to sleep. I only noticed the automatic upgrade was happening when I woke the machine up and it suddenly started slurping down lots of bandwidth, and I could see it in my network activity indicator blinker. I was able to stop it before the download finished. Really unsettling.

I had every update option available turned off, including the supposedly-all-powerful "Check for updates".

Hmmm this has me wondering if there are some underlying terminal defaults or system level startup daemons that could be modified/disabled. Might need to look at this after breakfast.

Windows updates are awful, I had a similar thing happen. I was transcoding a large amount of videos overnight and expected it to be finished the next morning. But, I discovered the machine updated and rebooted instead.

The plus side of Windows being so awful is that I have transitioned away from using it as much as I can.

When you buy a race car designed for a race track, the assumption is you know how to use it. You don't get any driver aids or idiot lights or dummy alarms or traction control or ABS. You are expected to know how to operate the race car effectively.

When you buy a subcompact economy car, you are not expected to be capable of much of anything, so you get a bunch of features to protect you from yourself.

You're driving the pedestrian economy car and complaining about it's pedestrian economy features. If you know what you're doing, get a race car. Otherwise, you're probably driving the right machine.

I assure you, if my subcompact economy car decided to drive itself to a service center regardless of whether I was using it at the moment I would have feelings about that.

It's also a bad analogy because MS makes the "I know what I'm doing car" but refuses to sell it to anyone who isn't a business.

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