And then media jumped on the wagon and started checking everyone. A second minister is now also in trouble after not only having plagiarized, but then invented source interviews (aka science fraud).
And then media jumped on the wagon and started checking everyone. A second minister is now also in trouble after not only having plagiarized, but then invented source interviews (aka science fraud).
Isn't the assumption supposed to be that anything I haven't cited is my idea? What does it matter if it's not the first time I had the idea? It's not less mine because I still have it.
I could sort of understand if I had published it somewhere and somehow given rights to it to another party, but this was just some random college philosophy paper.
If I can't grant myself rights to my work, then who can?
If you're not doing that then I would assume it's fine?
You can quote any previous work, others and/or your own, but you must highlight/identify it as such.
I'm not defending the usage, I'm simply explaining how the term is now used. Language mutates, origins are lost, and usage evolves.
You may choose to quote dictionary definitions, but dictionaries document usage, and of necessity can never be fully up-to-date with more recent changes. This is especially true when the terms are being interpreted within a specific context. In many academic environments "self-plagiarism" is an adaptation of the original concept to indicate that students cannot repeatedly submit the same work over and over again. They will say something like "Work for this accreditation must be new and original" and then use the term "self-plagiarism" to describe when that stipulation is breached.
As I say, language evolves. People even say "The proof is in the pudding" and "I could care less". These are idioms that convey meaning as an entirety and are not to be interpreted according to the meaning of the words therein.
Similarly, now in some contexts "self-plagiarism" is a term used to describe recycling one's own work. Sometimes it's fine, sometimes it's not.
Love it, like it, or loathe it, the term exists and describes "A Thing(tm)".
I'd assume it would have had to be somebody pretty important, for their fiat to have such weight. I'd like to know who it was.
It's a concept that needs a name, and when a name turns up it often spreads quickly with no obvious source.
Assume you write a bachelor thesis on topic X. Then, move universities (or professors, whatever), and write more or less the same thesis again to get a masters degree.
That’s self plagiarism.
This doesn't sound true if you're copying your own work surely? If that's the case it must by definition be work that you did, right?
Any two entities can agree to any set of terms they want. If a school says you have to sign a code of conduct to go there, and it prohibits submitting the same work for more than one course, fine. If someone breaks that rule, accuse them of violating the code of conduct.
But that's not plagiarism. "Self-plagiarism" is a contradiction in terms.
It's also important to understand that many of the lessons we are taught in school about attribution are deliberately over-emphasized by instructors, in order to impart good citation habits. If frightening students to death about "self-plagiarism" causes them to be unnecessarily forthright in citing their own work, even outside the classroom context, instructors are mostly fine with that.
The issue with self plagiarism isn't that you are quoting your own previous work (you are free to do that), it's because you're not tagging it as a citation and thereby passing it off as new.
As many as it meets the requirements for.
Heck, I submitted the exact same "tell us about a significant experience in your life" story to every single university I applied for.
And I guarantee the teachers are duplicating lessons or parts of lessons when they teach related classes. Have you ever seen a professor cite, "Me, the first time I taught this class"?
That's just being smart and efficient. I see absolutely nothing wrong with any of these examples.
>As many as it meets the requirements for.
What I'm trying to tell you is that it normally won't meet the requirements a second time. It's usually part of the university's examination regulations that a paper has to be original. Everything else is seen as an attempt of scientific deception that consequently can and will be treated as a violation of regulations.
But I have to admit I'm not sure if that's a universal rule, or just where I'm from. I suspect we might be having some kind of cultural divide at play here. May I ask what part of the world you're in?
If I had taken two classes that both requested an essay on the symbolism of Plato's cave, I'd be stoked I already had one at the ready. Wouldn't even occur to me that there was some problem with it. But even that isn't what happened in my original post that prompted the question.
I'm in the U.S., and I was pursuing my degree at a university people have heard of in New England (but not the one that probably first comes to mind, especially about this topic lately).
But I think my example would not be acceptable for a student. You may not re-use a paragraph you wrote, even if you cite it. Double submission is often treated similarly to plagiarism.
My main point is that what is and isn’t plagiarism is contested, outside of high school and undergraduate students.
Why not? That's the part I (top level commenter) have never understood.
Why am I limited to having or expressing my ideas in one venue only, and only once? Why don't I have unlimited right to use my own thoughts as often as I care to?
The implication is that it's large paragraphs of solid work stolen from a fellow researcher in the field. But it could just as easily mean 22% of her text was scattered with cliches, idioms and excerpts from legislation (or other standard texts) if someone with an agenda was interpreting the results.
Nor do the tools have a human level understanding of what has or has not been cited properly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Borch_and_Ingvild_Kjerk...
The 'talk' page of that article is completely empty and not a single one of the citations is in English. For all intents and purposes you're taking everything written there on pure faith because the chance that some uninterested observer has double-checked all of those citations is basically zero.
"A man does not look behind the door unless he has stood there himself." - W.E.B. Du Bois
The 1857 book "A polyglot of foreign proverbs : comprising French, Italian, German, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, and Danish, with English translations and a general index" has that quote in the index, on page 413 at https://archive.org/details/b24867664/page/412/mode/2up?q=%2... .
On page 354 you can see it's described as a Danish proverb, https://archive.org/details/b24867664/page/354/mode/2up?q=do... : "Den leder ikke gierne bag Dören, som ei selv har staaet der. A man does not look behind the door unless he has stood there himself"
That phrase is indeed in the 1850 book "Danske Ordsprog, Tankesprog og Riimsprog", p153, #2385 at https://archive.org/details/danskeordsprogt00copegoog/page/n... .
FWIW, the 1897 book "Men in epigram" attributes that quote to Henri Du Bois.
Or, "I'm Charlie Stross, and I tell lies for money. That is, I'm a science fiction writer" - https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2023/11/dont-cr...
Ed. I checked and both Sandra Borch and Ingvild Kjerkol seem to have been active in party politics from an early age. Exactly fits the mold of groomed career politicians.