Google to invest $1B in UK data centre
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Despite all the noise most company have stayed where they are. And in many cases they even invested more in UK.
Finance is deflating like a slow puncture. There's fewer listings in London[1]. Open positions[2] is another early indicator. I believe the US is generally a bigger beneficiary than any EU competitor city. There is no emerging EU alternative to London, instead other cities are consolidating in specific verticals. It's a bit tricky to split out finance industry trends from the broader economy of course.
[1] https://www.standard.co.uk/business/peel-hunt-london-listing...
[2] https://www.efinancialcareers.ch/en/news/2024/01/brexit-bank...
>>non-EU immigration has increased hugely since Brexit.
Both things can be true at the same time.
If you run a British business it has become vastly more difficult to hire someone from the EU(where there is a lot of high skilled talent, especially in IT). Before Brexit if you found a candidate say in Spain, they could start working for you the next day, with the same paperwork as any British employee. Now if you wanted to hire the same candidate the hoops to go through to get them a visa are crazy and it takes minimum of 2-3 months to sort it out, not to mention the extra cost.
But since now the expense and effort for hiring EU candidates is roughly the same as hiring non-EU ones, is that really a surprise non-EU immigration has increased? Not to mention that EU candidates don't want to move to UK, and who could blame them - why accept a job on a 2 year visa that gives you and your family zero stability, when similarly paid jobs are available within the EU. And again - if you were going to bother with the whole visa nonsense why not go straight for US and get a much higher salary for the same job.
Just my 2c as an immigrant to UK.
i think that’s just a snapshot of the current economic situation around the world, not a long term trend:
https://www.morganmckinley.com/uk/article/london-employment-...
charts 15 and 16:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64ad6d32fe36e...
this has a bunch if interesting stats:
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06...
that didn't stop you from trying though
"79% fewer job listings" is not the same thing as "79% fewer jobs"
yes, fewer people hiring at the moment because the cheap money has dried up
none of this is specific to the UK
When I buy EUR-denominated ETFs, they're almost invariably listed in Dublin with IE ISINs. Euronext stock exchange, the largest stock exchange in the EU, is in Amsterdam (domiciled - it's got multiple market places). For financial services, Frankfurt just overtook Paris[1] but they're pretty close.
[1] https://www.euronews.com/business/2023/10/21/europes-top-fin...
Similarly, the arguments about companies leaving the UK were based on the premise that UK regulation would diverge from EU regulation. But it hasn't.
In a few cases where real regulatory hurdles exist the UK has lost out. I worked for a company that started up an Amsterdam office directly because they needed to be within the EU, and that has genuinely drawn talent away from the UK to the EU. B
So far I think the biggest impact of Brexit has actually been state sector not private - suddenly the UK had to replicate the entirity of EU shared beauracracy. So now for example, we have to independently evaluate all drug approvals in what is basically a pointless waste of time replicating something the EU already did.
The Treasury forecast shortly before the referendum predicted a huge drop in investment, leading to a severe recession, starting as soon as there was a vote in favour of Brexit, before it even happened.
Disclaimer: I have no idea on the net effects of Brexit.
Take a look: https://www.google.com/about/datacenters/locations/
Brexit or not, these things are sensitive to distance and infrastructure availability. There are certain hotspots, for example Egypt is one. Maybe the next one will be in Cairo, Istanbul or Sofia.
eh? because there are lots of customers there, including rich businesses who want to pay for cloud hosting in the UK legal jurisdiction with low latency.
Google already has datacentres in neighbouring countries - Ireland, Belgium, Netherlands, Finland, etc - and already has a cloud region in the UK so it's not very surprising to do some infill.
Two: The British government is desperate to cultivate the appearance of a thriving high-tech, high-growth economy and is willing to offer very generous terms for inbound investment. The current Prime Minister Rishi Sunak fancies himself as something of a tech bro and is eager to grow the British tech sector, even if that involves a lot of flexibility on things like tax and regulatory compliance. A large faction within the governing Conservative Party are keen to reposition the UK along the lines of Singapore or Hong Kong, acting as a low-tax, low-regulation bridge between larger international markets; there's a lot of movement in that direction that isn't particularly transparent.
Ireland used to be the benchmark in that respect, but it has become a more difficult environment due to persistent intervention by the EU and domestic discontent. Britain's post-brexit position as EU-adjacent imposes a lot of costs on SMEs, but it's attractive if you have the legal and lobbying resources to creatively navigate the ambiguity and uncertainty of that position.
https://www.standard.co.uk/business/city-jobs-boom-brexit-ex...
the simple fact is most of these jobs serve the domestic market and were never at risk
Maybe not the best idea to crowd the Eu's tech sector in an already crowded county. Why not a country with more free space, like France?
> Since the UK’s EU referendum, 44% (97 out of 222) of the largest UK financial services firms have announced plans to move some UK operations and/or staff to the EU – a figure that nearly doubled between March 2017 (53 out of 222, 24%) and March 2021 (95 out of 222, 43%)
> Since the referendum, 24 firms have publicly declared they will transfer just over £1.3trn of UK assets to the EU – a figure which has remained broadly flat over the past 18 months
> In the last quarter [i.e. Q1 2022], the number of Brexit-related staff relocations to the EU has been further revised down, from 7,400 in December 2021 to just over 7,000 as March 2022 closes – significantly down from the peak of 12,500 announced in 2016
> While many worst-case-scenario contingency plans have not been enacted, EY anticipates ongoing operational and staff moves from financial services firms across Europe as Brexit increasingly becomes part of a broader conversation about strategic business drivers and operating models
There has been no post-Brexit boom in financial services [2], with a variety of "business friendly deregulation" changes either "yet to be implemented" [as of Dec 2023] and with "none so far having a substantial impact".
[1] https://www.ey.com/en_uk/news/2022/03/ey-financial-services-...
[2] https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/post-brexit-big-bang-reform...
> Since the UK’s EU referendum, 44% (97 out of 222) of the largest UK financial services firms have announced plans to move some UK operations and/or staff to the EU – a figure that nearly doubled between March 2017 (53 out of 222, 24%) and March 2021 (95 out of 222, 43%)
> In the last quarter [i.e. Q1 2022], the number of Brexit-related staff relocations to the EU has been further revised down, from 7,400 in December 2021 to just over 7,000 as March 2022 closes – significantly down from the peak of 12,500 announced in 2016
the number of people employed in UK FS is 2.2 million, so that's 0.3%
for comparison: last year 87,000 new UK jobs were added
structually most of these 2.2 million serve the UK domestic market and were never at risk of going to the EU
it’s interesting that there was no mass relocation of jobs out of London:
https://www.morganmckinley.com/uk/article/london-employment-...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/385366/uk-finance-insura...
Also French labour laws and norms are probably frightening to union-phobic Big Tech companies.
I can't speak for everyone, but in my case it's laws, regulation, and general friendliness to business enterprises that bring income to the country.
Amsterdam is likely also the best connected area in Europe, the European equivalent of Ashburn, VA.
Best connected to what exactly? If you ask most people, Vienna is a lot better connected with the rest of europe. Amsterdam is at an edge of the continent.
Ireland is a satellite, not a hub. The bulk of traffic goes to UK landing stations, then to London.
If anything, we should decrease in population.
Remember when the UK looked down on India? Now it even relies heavily on hiring people from there.
My intention was to highlight how the dynamics between other countries have changed and how the UK seems less independent and less interested in progress all while spending money on war (while aimlessly following the US).
I don’t think this is supported by the facts, as much as Brexit was a dumb idea.
And I never read anything that had people predicting tech would leave en mass. It generally seems like a mixed bag, with tech being relatively strong, but especially not reaping anywhere near the original promised benefits of Brexiteers: https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/02/01/brexit-3-years-on-t...