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Why are electric cars more expensive than gas cars?

Too big batteries I guess. The range is silly large on most models.

Is it? Nobody wants a car with only 150mi range especially if it’s your only car. Any gas car these days easily hits 300, or even 400mi comfortably. To actually replace your only car it feels like 250++ is essentially mandatory. Not everyone has a charging spot where they park.

Dunno really. It is my theory. I got a 10 miles comute one way. So 50 miles range would be more than enough for me with some spare for detours and winter inefficiency.

But as you say we would probably need a gas car too, but the EV might be affordable if it is cheaper.

A small battery is cheaper to replace as it ages too.

They aren’t necessarily. In the US they just choose to manufacture them that way. If you look at other countries they are developing electric cars en masse that are SUPER simple and basic and are much more affordable.

What amazing to me is that the cheapest electric cars currently are ironically hybrids which are at least twice as complex as a gas or an electric car and a bill of materials to match. It makes no sense.

Don’t get me wrong I think plugin hybrids are the gateway to getting people on board with electric especially the septics, but at the same time it makes no sense that they are less than their electric equivalents.

If people wanted to drive a golf cart they’d buy a golf cart.

we definitely need more golf carts in cities

They’re less than electric equivalents because the battery is substantially smaller, and batteries are essentially the biggest cost in an EV. Assembled pack pricing is still around $100-120/kWh and even smaller batteries are like 65kWh. Most cars are closer to 70-80. For a PHEV, the largest battery is a lot closer to 10kWh.

I would never buy a hybrid though (too much added complexity for no real benefit), and I won't buy an electric car for multiple reasons (the main one being that I can't install a charger where I stay).

Batteries, newness and novelty of the tech, and the prevention of Chinese competition in many markets.

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