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Read/use 13 of them.

The Phoenix Project is however used as toilet paper. This is a symbolic gesture after working in a very fucked up company who decided the management restructure wasn’t at fault and maybe if they bought a copy and gave it to everyone and we used it as a religious text then everything would be fine. It was a painful read at best.

Surprised to see Euclid’s elements. I have a volume from 1742 on the bookshelf!

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The Phoenix Project is ok. It's just a simple parable to teach people about the benefits of ITSM and CAB.

However, I really wished someone would write something like the phoenix project but there's no happy ending. Instead, things just get worse and worse for all the characters, both professionally and personally.

So just normal job in bigCorp?

The Goal was an interesting read after having read The Phoenix Project. It's what The Phoenix Project was based on. It's about the Theory of Constraints and in "The Goal" they're trying to save a manufacturing plant. (First edition is from 1984. They're up to fourth edition.)

I personally liked The Goal much more than The Phoenix project. That could be because I read it very early in my career, and also maybe because when I read the latter book, I was already following a few of the recommendations mentioned there.

Every unhappy ending is unhappy in its own way...To paraphrase half of a famous opening line.

Where did you get that? Rare bookstore? Care to share?

eBay!

Oh wow, I'll have to look into that. Were you concerned it might be counterfeit?

Slightly but the seller was a vintage book specialist with a physical shop and a good reputation so I was less worried.

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