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i've never seen a poll on the topic of immigration that shows anything under 85% of americans being against loosening borders further. even the libertarian party figured this out...look at their election 08 platforms and you will see that even they threw in the towel on open borders. this issue is DOA, political suicide.

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McCain and Obama were in fundamental agreement on the issue, viz, that the borders should be opened and all illegals should receive amnesty. And thus they never discussed it.

So strange to see seeming anti-establishment nuts (randians) suggesting the government do what it's already been doing for decades. The only people who benefit from immigration are asset-holders, so needless to say, people with a combination of amorality and asset wealth want as much as possible.

Uh, do you feel that as someone who emerged from his/her mother's vagina on American soil you are deserving of more than someone who emerged elsewhere? Why shouldn't someone who is willing to work be allowed to come here to be hired by someone who willingly wants to hire them?

The US does not have open immigration, nor is it opening. Both Obama and McCain oppose(d) any meaningful increase in immigration.

Your point is that rather than worrying about principles we should just take a poll and only discuss things that poll at close to 50%?

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