AI comes up with battery design that uses 70 per cent less lithium
newscientist.com
newscientist.com
https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.04070
>Here we demonstrate how this vision became reality by first combining state-of-the-art artificial intelligence (AI) models and traditional physics-based models on cloud high-performance computing (HPC) resources to quickly navigate through more than 32 million candidates and predict around half a million potentially stable materials. By focusing on solid-state electrolytes for battery applications, our discovery pipeline further identified 18 promising candidates with new compositions and rediscovered a decade's worth of collective knowledge in the field as a byproduct. By employing around one thousand virtual machines (VMs) in the cloud, this process took less than 80 hours.
Unless one can guarantee this knowledge wasn't in the training data, it's not rediscovered, it's regurgitated.
Good example of the bias that exist with AI: when the output/performance can be interpreted in two different manners, I consistently find people unconsciously choosing the option painting the AI in a better light.
I don't think AI / deep learning is useless, but I do think it's overrated at the moment.
So they did a brute force search through possible candidates to find promising ones. Which makes a lot of sense but ... AI?
Guessing they need more funding now so they're making it sound like it's part of the LLM fad.
But yes, it probably is just expert software. We sometime call it intelligent, although it may just be some physics model with a lot of experience in engineering pragmatic assumptions to reduce brute forcing likely optimal solutions.
> Machine learning (ML) models for materials science have the potential to vastly expedite the computational discovery process. State-of-the-art ML models can predict the results of physics-based quantum mechanical calculations but are several orders of magnitude faster, making them ideal for predicting general material properties [5–7]. In addition to direct property prediction, combining universal ML potentials such as M3GNet [8], CHGNet [9], and GNoME [10] has made it possible to perform geometric optimization, and hence evaluate thermodynamic stability, for arbitrary combinations of elements and structures. The significant speed advantage of ML-based techniques over direct simulation has made it possible to explore materials across a vast chemical space that greatly exceeds the number of known materials.
Models mentioned:
M3GNet: M3GNet is a new materials graph neural network architecture that incorporates 3-body interactions. A key difference with prior materials graph implementations such as MEGNet is the addition of the coordinates for atoms and the 3×3 lattice matrix in crystals, which are necessary for obtaining tensorial quantities such as forces and stresses via auto-differentiation.
Source: https://materialsvirtuallab.github.io/m3gnet/
CHGNet: A pretrained universal neural network potential for charge-informed atomistic modeling (see publication). Crystal Hamiltonian Graph neural Network is pretrained on the GGA/GGA+U static and relaxation trajectories from Materials Project, a comprehensive dataset consisting of more than 1.5 Million structures from 146k compounds spanning the whole periodic table.
Source: https://github.com/CederGroupHub/chgnet
GNoME: GNoME Is A State-Of-The-Art Graph Neural Network (GNN) Model. The Input Data For GNNs Take The Form Of A Graph That Can Be Likened To Connections Between Atoms, Which Makes GNNs Particularly Suited To Discovering New Crystalline Materials.
Source: https://gmnomeai.cloud/
Nowhere in the article linked to by HN they say that, so it's easy to assume their use of ML is just marketing.
Seems it wasn't quite so obvious.
But unless the article explains what those representations are, we can’t tell.
A lazy critique of llms but that is not what was used here. The paper is linked in the comments, if you're actually interested.
It does look like they are describing a sort of Lithium/Sodium mix rather than a 'pure' Sodium-ion battery, which is (at least to me) slightly novel.
It would then raise a bigger question: If the AI 'came up with it', does that mean that it can't be patented? Or does that depend on whether it came up with the manufacturing technique?
If its not higher capacity + lower weight it's not an alternative.
For primary applications (cars, portable devices, etc) sadly it still looks like lithium is the best option.
Basically I'm not sure why this is touted as 'AI comes up', instead of 'scientists use computer to'.
Granted, I've not met many newsrooms with a serious conceptualization of "responsibility" beyond whatever bullshit they learned in school.
Well, ML is a well-defined class of processes, calling it AI seems a little disingenuous. Is a beam search still considered AI? How about Markov chains? It's much easier to refer to the specific processes rather than vague floating signifiers if you want to communicate clearly, which I would argue is a primary responsibility of journalists. It doesn't bode well for reporting if journalists aren't zeroed in on this problem of de-jargonizing tech reporting in the first place, and this leaves them vulnerable to essentially marketing ploys that inherently misrepresent the capabilities of the software.
Why? It's been done for a long time. The whole field has been referred to as AI for decades, nobody was standing up in my lectures saying "No! SVMs aren't AI!".
> It doesn't bode well for reporting if journalists aren't zeroed in on this problem of de-jargonizing tech reporting in the first place, and this leaves them vulnerable to essentially marketing ploys that inherently misrepresent the capabilities of the software.
Referring to the things used here as AI is entirely consistent with how I've seen the term used dating back beyond when people would ask me if AI was to do with aliens. Simpler things have been called AI in the public sphere too, so it's not a new thing being sprung on people. I don't think people have generally been confused by a camera that says it has AI thinking it's sentient.
Yea, everyone else has been laughing at you for this the whole time. It's a dumb term for anything but encouraging rubes to fork over cash for stuff that looks like magic.
> Referring to the things used here as AI is entirely consistent with how I've seen the term used dating back beyond when people would ask me if AI was to do with aliens. Simpler things have been called AI in the public sphere too, so it's not a new thing being sprung on people.
Maybe you should consider communicating more directly and effectively.
> I don't think people have generally been confused by a camera that says it has AI thinking it's sentient.
You should talk to more people. This is 100% a problem.
Almost nobody really knew about the field not that long ago.
> Maybe you should consider communicating more directly and effectively.
I don't understand what you mean. People had seen the film AI and misremembered it having aliens in, and when I said my course was AI that's what they thought about.
> You should talk to more people. This is 100% a problem.
I don't believe you that people generally believe that cameras and the like have been sentient for years.