I hope this is the beginning of a trend. Depending on some third party to manage my communications with a second party feels dirty and also forces me to clutter up my (in this case) Slack setup. Discord is even more insane in this regard.
If forums become the norm again, and people are logical enough to keep them viewable to guests, that issue goes away and we'll be able to actually find useful information online again.
https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/6208479917079-...
Minecraft mod? "Find us on Discord!"
Hot new indie game? "Find us on Discord!"
Interesting little open source project? "Find us on Discord!"
30 year old forum shutting down? "Find us on Discord!"
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aansweroverflow.com+c%...
Discord still doesn't have this, I belong to 100+ discord servers, and the notifications are a pure nightmare, impossible to find the server you want.
Examples: - https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/latest/%23ubuntu.html - http://irc.yoctoproject.org/irc/%23yocto.2024-01-05.log.html
How discoverable it is on Google depends only on Google and on how those logs are stored.
In theory IRC logs could be organized appropriately. But that would require some kind of curation, either manual or via AI, that doesn't really happen in practice, even when irc logs are published.
Yes there’s irccloud to do it for you but you need to pay for that.
Those days are gone. It was great for its time, but the reality is there’s soo many better services for this need today (incl Matrix).
It’s also not searchable on Google either (yes you can run a bot but you could do that on discord/matrix or any other service too).
As an avid IRC user, Nor am I. My favorite thing about IRC is that there's no expectation you "keep up" on conversations that happen when you're not there.
Hell, my client barely even keeps track of notifications. The tab for a channel will color red if someone mentions my name, but that goes away as soon as you open the tab. No need to scroll up to where you got mentioned if you don't want to.
The ephemeral nature of IRC makes it a surprisingly relaxed experience.
Forum are very useful for example for use cases where the topic is extremely specific and you throw out a post “who else does this and have this issue?” and hope someone will find your post through internet search and the more people find the thread the higher the likeliness to find a solution.
IRC is nice for quick back-and-forth type conversation for topics which are more “common”, where the requirements to participate in teh conversation are lower. For example, a discussion on a potential feature request.
Except that newer products like Slack and email providers with their conversation view are conflating the two use cases.
Slack tries to implement features of a forum by allowing threaded conversations. Conversation view email removes the nested threads and makes the email thread look more like a chat as opposed to a forum discussion with multiple threads.
You can just set up something like The Lounge [0].
As would be most people case. So, having discussions in place that requires it is just wrong choice. I do suspect github did that intentionally so that they dont act like free storage place for unpaid projects, so going elsewhere is not even hurting them.
I'm actually about to release an app that can automatically convert slack threads into knowledge base articles.
Would love to share it w/ anyone who's interested to get some feedback.
The difference between an account and an identity was so unclear when I signed up for Discord that I actually just closed the app and gave up on whatever led me there.
The identity and “server” concepts are complete non-starters for me.
Discord is in complete control of what information is shared with other users. There’s no mechanical prevention on them changing this behavior by accident or on purpose.
You're making this sound a little more dramatic than it is. Discord only makes your membership in a server public to users who are also members of that server (and who could thus see you in its member list).
There's also a Chinese firm that owns a decent stake - tencent, I think.
On the plus side when it inevitably shuts down I will be unaffected.
It does really not help that the target audience for Discord is 14 year old gamers.
I paid for decent audio quality, got advertisements too
I would never use it for something professional/business related.
I’m not a community member, I’m a paying customer.
Sure messages disappear on the free plan, but there are ways around that.
Zulip is also available as a container.
2. What is the way around the free plan message limit?
3. What do you use Slack for?
2. I used https://www.linen.dev/ but I think there are others. It turn Slack conversations in a searchable static site.
3. Developer community for an open source software product.