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Seriously, every hole results in an eventual dump, tank, yard, road, or some other dang thing and the net land wrecked per operation is five acres.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/sKfYNokGcidWLGTQ7

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Windmill farms have roads also. Traveling in Illinois recently and seeing some huge 300+ft windmills in the corn and soybean fields, I think that is a perfect place for them. The whole scene is quite artificial and totally human controlled. The windmills fit right in. I don't think they should be placed on wilderness type lands. Similar to a fracking operation, you have a dense network of roads and the moving, man-made objects are quite jarring on the landscape. And unlike oil or gas extraction those sites will likely be in use for hundreds of years instead of a few decades.

Sheesh. That's insane.

My understanding is that East California is like that too. Not sure the status as of today and if this is still permitted or not? Look up some images from LA in the early oil boom - crazy.

Here's an example of them in Alberta (where I am familiar): https://maps.app.goo.gl/73x4uKZxWKbZkgD76

In 2023 California almost halted drilling permits, but mainly because the governor has national office ambitions and he was starting to get some criticism from the hypocrisy of having overseen 10000+ new oil permits during his tenure.

"Everything in moderation, including moderation" comes to mind.

If that were true then Los Angeles would be an uninhabitable wasteland. Jokes aside, it’s clearly not true.

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