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Are you running a 15 year old netbook or something? I've never noticed any input lag in VSCode or Slack (or any other Electron apps I can think of)

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I own a 2017 MacBook Air, and I don't see why a block editor like Notion should be so slow on my computer. This is why I'm building my own block editor in Qt C++ and QML[1].

[1] https://www.get-plume.com/

Because Notion is slow period. The web app is insane

Just wanted to compliment your landing page and the intro gif. Great showcase of the app, if I wasn't hooked on LogSeq I'd give it a try!

Thanks a lot, I'm very happy to hear! Essentially, all notes are just markdown/plaintext, so it should be easy to move your data to/from LogSeq. I'm saying essentially tho cause, although the underlying data is plaintext, they are stored inside a local database rather than an arbitrary folder. But soon I'll change that.

Looks good. I joined the waitlist.

How does it compare to Obsidian? I didn't see it in any of the comparison graphs.

Hey there, just saw your comment. Obsidian isn't a block editor (see below what it means in practice) so it's not being compared.

- Obsidian is using the resource-hag framework Electron. So it uses much more resources. Plume is built using Qt C++ and QML, and it's actually faster than comparable native apps.

- Obsidian editor is not a block editor (i.e., like Notion), so you can't put advanced blocks like a Kanban (tasks board) within the same page.

- Since it's not a block editor, you can't drag & drop different components.

Unlike Notion (which is also a web app wrapped with Electron), Plume is:

- Fast (Qt C++ vs Electron)

- Easier to use (opinionated design vs. Notion's complex databases)

- Portable (Underlying data is plaintext* vs. proprietary database)

*Currently all the notes' plaintext is stored in a database, but soon we'll change that to support arbitrary folder.

Nice landing page. Tip: make the speed comparison an agonizing animation, like esbuild's:

https://esbuild.github.io/

Edit: Tip 2: the screenplay looks nothing like a screenplay

Haha that's funny. I'll consider that.

> Tip 2: the screenplay looks nothing like a screenplay

Is it because the lack of middle alignment? I was thinking about that. At the end of the day it's all plaintext/markdown underneath, so I need to come up with the right syntax for that.

You can use Fountain

https://fountain.io

Awesome, thanks!

You're probably used to high latency.

You'd be, if you got into computers only recently. It got this bad.

Only those who have used systems yielding low input latency (e.g. Commodore 64, BeOS or the Amiga) can tell that something is very wrong.

What does low latency have an effect on, productivity?

Sanity.

Whether sanity and productivity are correlated, I won't go into.

When you've experienced low latency, high latency is very noticeable, and drains mental health.

Yes, that's the most probable. I use a M3 Max so nothing is really slow but speed difference between vscode and Sublime is abysmal.

they're a text editor and a chat client, and a 30 year old computer can run vim/emacs and irssi just fine.

brb, just switching my 100k employee company from Teams to IRC, should be quick and easy, everyone is going to love it.

If they are on MacOS they may make you their king. I still have PTSD from the last job that I had to use Teams on a Mac.

Teams is awful on all platforms, I don't ever want to touch it again

They might indeed. There are some very nice native IRC clients for macOS that are fast and good...

I would love it. I would also love for it to switch to silence instead.

Excellent idea! You'll have a mature, open standard protocol under the hood, with no vendor lock-in, excellent extensibility, and great modern frontends like The Lounge (https://thelounge.chat/) or Convos (https://convos.chat/) to choose from (and you can choose).

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