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Oracle releases Java 7 JDK for Mac OS X

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Some useful information on usage (including with NB and IntelliJ) here - http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-...

GUI Apps look weird with the Oracle VM - looks like the Cocoa integration is not yet done.

Not _yet_? OpenJDK has that as a goal <http://openjdk.java.net/projects/macosx-port/>, but I do not remember Oracle stating anything about Cocoa integration, so I do not expect anything in that respect from Oracle.

I recall reading it somewhere (Apple mailing list?) that Apple resources are working on the openjdk port and Oracle does pull from OpenJDK so I wouldn't be surprised to see features from OpenJDK pulled into Oracle JDK. It would be weird if Apple contributed stuff into openjdk and oracle didn't pull it into their OS X distribution.

Oracle JDK uses the live OpenJDK source repository. There are only minor differences between Open and Closed JDK.

Oracle being Oracle, it would not surprise me if they ignored Mac OS X specific changes. They may not want to take up the responsibility for testing and maintaining such changes (what if a security bug surfaces on code Apple contributed?)

Oracle has indeed taken on Mac OS X specific changes. There are a few cosmetic issues still not resolved as of this update. But they are known, and in their bug tracker.

Oracle and Apple have actually worked together closely and openly on this. Anyone can sign up to the macosx-port-dev@openjdk.java.net and follow the progress.

There are a few unresolved issues with the OS X look and feel in OpenJDK. I've been actively seeking them out and reporting them, as my product is written in Java and is a Mac-only product, so I affected by any issues.

IMO Apple and Oracle are actively and openly working on these outstanding issues.

Oracle patching Mac Java directly should prevent fiascos like Flashback from happening again.

doesn't look this would have helped: "Note that for the 7u4 release, Java plugin and Java Web start applications are not supported."

LOL, also, that's ok, I don't enable java plugins on the web anyways.

I don't usually either, but I like to use JSPerf from time to time which prefers you use their Java plugin for timing accuracy.

I think oracle is actually bringing a decent release cycle to JDK on mac. Bout time!

Hmmm. Supprted Macs: any Intel Does it really run on 32bit Intels and on Snow Leopard?

Still use a 1st gen Macbook Pro...

The download page says (64bit). So looks like Core 2 Duo and up only.

Installer is Lion only. It refuses to install on Snow Leopard, unless you hack it (pgkutil --expand to extract it, edit Distribution file and remove OS version check, then repackage with pkgutil --flatten). It will install, but I haven't tested extensively if it works. I would not use it for production anyway on unsupported OS.

A stupid nitpick: those download buttons have confused gloss effects.

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