Thousand People Were Convicted of Stealing over Decades It Was a Computer Glitch
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Was there not one case where they stepped back and thought maybe this is a totally stand up person and there is something wrong with the software?
I am certain someone raised a hand at a certain point and was told to shut up and/or let go and/or his/her contract not renewed.
The amount of not giving a fuck is staggering in this world (and IIRC a primary source of enshittification), particularly when a billion contractors are involved...
A starry cast takes on one of the worst miscarriages of justice in British history. They’re the ideal way in to skulduggery so terrifying it could be a Black Mirror episode
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/jan/01/mr-bate...
LONDON—The U.K. government has taken the rare step of proposing a law to overturn hundreds of convictions of people running post offices across Britain who were found guilty of theft or false accounting, an attempt to rectify a miscarriage of justice that has dragged on for decades.
Between 1999 and 2015, some 983 convictions were brought against people managing post office branches across the country, after faulty accounting software mistakenly showed money missing from their business accounts.
The convictions devastated the lives of hundreds of postmasters and postmistresses—who were self-employed and operated local post offices like a franchise—many of whom were driven into bankruptcy and some of whom ended up in jail. Four died by suicide. One postmistress was jailed while pregnant. Others spent their savings trying to make up shortfalls in their post-office accounts which the accounting system, called Horizon, erroneously flagged. Some 60 have died before having their convictions quashed.
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said Wednesday that legislation would soon be presented to Parliament to ensure convictions are scrapped and compensation is paid, in an unusual move that would see Parliament overturn decisions made by the courts. “This is one of the greatest miscarriages of justice in our nation’s history,” he said.
From various sources:https://corporate.postoffice.co.uk/en/horizon-scandal-pages/...
The Horizon system was first introduced from 1999. Prosecutions in which Horizon evidence may have featured took place between 1999 and 2015.
Is Horizon still being used?
Yes. There have been several versions of Horizon since its introduction in 1999 and the current version of the system, introduced from 2017, was found in the group litigation to be robust, relative to comparable systems. But we are not complacent about that and are continuing to work, together with our postmasters, to make improvements.
We will be moving away from Horizon to a new IT cloud-based system that will be more user-friendly and easier to adapt for new products and services. This is currently being developed with the involvement of our Postmasters.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67921298Calls grow for Fujitsu to pay for Post Office injustice
She is angry the Japanese-owned company, which developed the software at the heart of the affair, is still winning government contracts 20 years after the problems first arose.
Fujitsu said it was sorry for its role in sub-postmasters' suffering.
But there is a growing chorus calling for action over the firm's role. No-one from Fujitsu has been held to account for failures with Horizon, the software it supplied to the Post Office. The firm has not paid any compensation to victims and has continued to win government contracts for its IT services worth billions of pounds.Around the world, the largest companies get away with the largest wholesale frauds and keep getting work over and over, repeating the cycle, to this day. Every sector this applies too. I can only imagine the same thing happens in every developed country.
Im not saying that they are all junk, but i am saying that a smaller company with just as capable people and credentials would do the job for a 1/10th of the price and in most cases its gonna be fine. Thats how i got into the game, helping a small company who had a foot in the door replace a reporting system Accenture was charging the gov a 1m a report to produce. We won a contract and built a system for 1m that delivered reports at 5-20k a pop, in 1/10 of the time, with more data sources. But its rare to happen, people like that dont get to sit at the table for lunch with the people who matter often (unless they are retired or neighbours with someone) - and we all know thats really how deals get made. LOL at all these fake processes our govs put in place to appear like they select vendors fairly. LOL such an illusion.
But you know what, even though our democracies are corrupt like this, its nothing compared the dictatorships where they are corrupt and dont deliver anything of value. We are lucky it wasnt tofu-dreg accounting software that spies on you, crashes as well as getting your records wrong.
It seems really unfortunate that anyone would claim that the buck stops with the computer system. Humans made choices and apparently didn't perform independent audits.
> The scandal has raised serious questions about Britain’s legal system
It seems more like a systematic failure of the legal processes at play. Worse still that there was a separate judicial system involved:
> often through an obscure internal judicial system that allowed it to try, investigate and convict postmasters without going through the police or the local courts.