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Did you comment on the wrong story?

The submission doesn't seem to try to assign blame to either Boeing or Spirit AeroSystems, but tries to just give you a true/false depending on if they airplane you're going with is a 737 Max.

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It has obvious topical context.

Just because the website happens to be about 737 Max, does it mean absolutely everything related to Boeing is on-topic in this submission? Especially discussions related to who to blame for (the recent) mishaps?

Umm, yes? This website is obviously on the front page because of the recent mishaps so that's literally the most on topic possible topic to discuss lol

This is like someone trying to argue the reason they like looking at breasts and sucking on nipples has nothing to do with being breast-fed as a child, and they are completely separate things and the correlation between them is irrelevant to bring up.

I am taking issue with the question implicitly begged by the submission.

Regardless of who is ultimately at fault, this is about people not wanting to fly on these planes. They don't care if it was Boeing or if it was a subcontractor, they just want the information they need to cancel their flight or demand a different plane from the airline.

If it was a subcontractor, wouldn't they want to not fly on planes made by that subcontractor?

Those other planes aren't experiencing active safety disruption events at the moment, so no. We might not ultimately know whose fault it is, but we know which planes are faulty. 737 MAX has a history of problems, and I'm shocked they weren't shelved the first time.

The planes listed on the website in this submission aren't experiencing any safety issues at the moment, either. The plug doors are only on MAX 9s, which are currently all grounded.

The MCAS crashes have been on MAX 8s, and those are not grounded. I have been avoiding all MAX models since that grounding back in 2019.

Why are you avoiding them now?

Because I know I'd feel much more miserable during the flight compared to being on an A320. (Not that I'll feel comfortable then, I hate flying on single-aisle planes in general.)

Sure, but the implied motive for spinning this up is that people care to know if their flight is on a 737max or <anything else>, and because Boeing put its name on this Russian roulette with wings, commenter is attempting to align perception with reality?

Also, first flight number I could find is a 737max according to google but this thing says it isn’t a 737max. AC565, January 9, 2024.

is a 737 MAX even a sufficiently specific identifier? I thought this issue was specifically to do with the 737 MAX 8

MAX 8 had the MCAS problems. The recent plug door issues are affecting MAX 9s.

Can't wait to see what the MAX 10 has to offer!

Damn. Too late to edit this comment.

The MAX 8 had the crashes due to MCAS problems. The underlying MCAS issue affected all 737 MAX variants.

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