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If that was the case Apple wouldn't have deployed the stealthy 'fix' and instead just said 'your battery is old and hence sometimes turns your phone off unexpectedly. But it's normal'. It clearly shows that the battery aging wasn't considered normal

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Sorry, I don’t see the logic here. Any battery will be able to supply less peak current as it ages. Throttling the SoC is clearly a better solution than just having the device randomly brown out. Fundamentally, that’s why it’s the solution that Apple adopted. We can speculate about Apple’s motives. My point was just that the batteries were not defective.

Yes, an apple is humble and that’s why they didn’t tell anyone they were doing it. And that’s why they’re also paying a fine for it.

I didn’t make any claim about Apple’s motives. I just said that the batteries weren’t defective.

Also, this isn’t a fine, it’s a settlement.

Why do you keep saying they weren’t defective, because they said so?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willskipworth/2023/11/01/apple-...

“ Apple Must Face Lawsuit Alleging It 'Throttled' IPhones To Cover Up Defective Batteries, U.K. Tribunal Rules”

Fine settlement potato potatoe

There are no magical batteries that can supply the same peak current after two years' worth of charge cycles as on day one. There was no manufacturing defect in the batteries. The batteries were only 'defective' in the sense that their performance had reduced as the result of a completely normal aging process. The same thing happens to the batteries in all other phones. The only differences lie in how phones deal with this in software. As the raw physical performance of the battery degrades, this always involves some kind of compromise. Some people didn't like the compromise Apple chose and how they chose (not) to communicate it. But that's not a debate I'm trying to get into here.

>Fine settlement potato potatoe

It's quite different. A fine is something you'd get for violating some kind of regulation. This is a lawsuit that Apple settled.

It’s funny, you seem to be a stickler for the word “fine” and not for the word “defective”.

To me the word 'defective' in this context implies a manufacturing defect, or some kind of degradation in performance beyond that which would typically be expected through normal use. My point is just that the batteries were not defective in that sense.

Yeah, it’s weird. If you understand batteries you understand why they did this. iPhones last longer already and are better supported than many android phones so apple has a history with longevity in their phones

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