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you're not wrong about google groups being a major vector for spam, but it is funny to watch people approve of gatekeeping interoperability when it's the one THEY care about.

the imessage thing is the same as google groups, or if google ran an open SMTP relay, it's gonna result in a ton of spam and people don't care as long as THEY get a personal win.

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I'm pro-gatekeeping, I was on the Internet before Eternal September and then later, when it became synonymous with web browsing.

These aren’t comparable and honestly it’s disingenuous to compare them.

iMessage does not have open groups for random people to join and participate on.

All the spam control can be done on the client side (e.g. message requests handled entirely separately rather than just landing in your messaging apps front page).

Have yall used other messaging apps? You know this is a solved problem in them? Facebook messenger, signal, telegram (only with premium unfortunately).

In the Usenet case here, Google has the power to disable the spam vectors. They simply don’t give a shit.

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