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While true, desktops are often difficult to carry around and use while mobile. It also doesn't have the benefits of macOS. I can get Linux desktops to be decent, but Mac feels and looks like a finished Linux desktop OS.

Apple charges big prices for MacBook pro's because they know other corps will foot the bill, they're work equipment like a tractor. The significantly less expensive MacBook air is the choice if this isn't the case.

I still love building PC's but honestly their main use now is either for server work or graphically heavy gaming.

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Wait, is it MacBook Pros or MacBooks Pro?

Anyway, mostly agree otherwise. Actually, macOS looks hideous and confusing to me, but the level of integration with the hardware is something I envy from Linux-laptop-land (imo it works fine on the desktop, but Linux on laptops could be better), the build quality seems quite nice, and the ecosystem seems neat.

Pro is an adjective in the context of MacBook Pro and adjectives are not pluralized.

The Apple branding App Store guidelines say:

"Always use the correct Apple product names with the correct capitalization as shown on the Apple Trademark List. Always use Apple product names in singular form. Modifiers such as model, device, or collection can be plural or possessive. Never typeset Apple product names using all uppercase letters."

("MacBook Pro" is one of the trademarks in the trademark l... oops, my apologies, Trademark List.)

So I suppose the correct plural is probably "MacBook Pro devices", but Apple's branding department has no power over us as individuals posting here so we can say what we like.

(I personally always went for "Macbook Pros")

*MacBooks Pro

Or Macs Book Pro?

“Benefits” of macOS? What are they — the pointless yearly updates? The OCD changes to chrome year after year? The declining stability?

Polished os with *nix underneath. Osx is closer to Linux then windows is and imho more polished then most Linux desktop environments.

I don’t find the yearly updates pointless? They keep adding new things and it’s also been stable for me for years.

Also what do changes to chrome have to do with apple/osx?

Osx is very literally unix, and it's extremely polished compared to linux desktop environments out of the box. (yes I know some people have no issues with their linux desktops but I've used it over 15 years and it's NOT nearly as seemless as OSX)

They're also extremely well sandboxed and have become increasingly more focused on security the last few years (in some ways annoyingly so).

> Also what do changes to chrome have to do with apple/osx?

Maybe parent meant chrome as in "OSX is focused continously updating it's shiny ui"?

I've been using an M2 Macbook and M1 Mini for a while now and I can't confirm those statements about polish.

The dock's icon scaling animation under the mouse cursor freezes in place at least once every few days. To this day the Stage Manager has a bug where pulling a minimized window to the front can throw it across the screen, with most of the window landing outside the visible screen area. For a few months I could reliably freeze the screenshot app by clicking 2-3 of the UI's buttons in an order that occurred during normal use. If I open more than ~10-15 images at once in the preinstalled preview app it often opens two or three windows instead of one and randomly distributes the pictures across those. More than ~50 image files can cause an error message and partial failure to open the files. In the first month after getting my Macbook, the "Open Anyway" button in the settings always crashed the settings app the first time after trying to start a new program. Turning off the second connected screen left windows on that screen inaccessible and I couldn't disable/remove the screen in the settings, and I could still move the cursor to the second screen while it was turned off. Clicking an 8GB video file in the file selection dialog spawned a ThumbnailExtension process that allocated 25GB memory within seconds and if not killed the process kept running for a minute after the file chooser was already closed...on a system with 8GB RAM, so it swapped 20GB. The file saving dialog is frozen as long as any connected HDD hasn't yet spun up, no matter if I want to save the file on that drive or not.

That's the things I can remember right now within a bit over one year of use. No, I don't think Mac OS' desktop is more polished than the best current Linux distros, though the OS stayed stable through upgrades, which I can't say about Windows 10 and some Linux systems. Imho the M1-3 Macbooks are still the best laptops currently available. But the desktop UI is clearly not as stable as iOS has been for me.

If you don’t see any for yourself fine, but how does this add anything to discussion?

Well for one the keybindings have been updated from the IBM PC. Doing that on linux isn't impossible, but it would require an enormous effort across many codebases.

I have tried for many years to match the productivity of macos on linux, and I can't. The mac (and I suspect the iphone) is just too predictable and reliable to abandon.

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