Of course. Tommorow they will be dead, and we will be the one paying the bill
Congrats on their generation. They deeply convinced me that democracy is one of the worst systems.
Congrats on their generation. They deeply convinced me that democracy is one of the worst systems.
Democracy has its problems like any other system with imperfect components, but that doesn't mean it isn't the best system we've discovered.
If we're not using empirical data to rank these systems, I'm not sure what else we could use to gain any confidence.
"Democracy" has been implemented in various forms, one of which is what the US has, where some people have less representation than others, e.g. senate, house seats, electoral college.
What they are expressing is not that we should not have democracy either.
Democracy has been historically unstable except for all the cases that it has been.
The house has achieved lots last session!
The people don't get what they want, e.g. republicans blocking things that were voted BY THE PEOPLE on the ballot.
There's of course all the gerrymandering as well, further preventing people from being adequately represented, and of course, let us not forget all the effort spent on making it harder to vote in the first place.
My point is simply that you can use and list you want that ranks countries in the order of most/least democratic and you'll find the citizens of the most democratic countries are consistently doing much better than those in the least democratic, which is evidence that democracy is far from the worst system.
I agree. I don't disagree with that, at all. I am, however, expressing that there ought to be limits to "democracy". Just as we have a lower bound, there need to be limits to ensure that younger people are not left to clean up the mess of a system they couldn't even participate in.
Besides that, the US (and all countries) have a lot going on that isn't just their voting systems. I.e. capitalisism, regulations or lack thereof, other existing power structures etc
This world has a bunch of scary problems, but I really feel (and I think the evidence shows) that we need more representation to solve them, not less!
I'm not trying to sell anyone on a "everything is rosy" outlook, but I think its important to question whether the problem is democracy itself. I.e.:
- Do you think democracy is bad because it's not representative enough? That sounds like you think the problem is that we need our systems to be more democratic?
- Do you think democracy is bad because democratic countries have huge political problems? What makes you assume democracy is the cause of those problems? Most democratic countries are also capitalist, religous, have laws, etc. Are those things bad too?
Don't get me wrong, its important to point out how our systems aren't working for us. But taking a blanket "democracy is bad" attitude is probably going to lead to the things your disenfranchised with becoming much much worse.
Democracy means the people have the power. The electoral and representative system most countries have in place in more or less the same way is a rough first stab at that.
That is the issue. My country is riddled by old person, who do not give a single fuck about the future beyond their own grave.
That doesn't make it true. In any case, I believe democracy is desired. I don't believe it's achieved in very meaningful ways with this model of representative democracy most countries implement.
Are you really that naive? Democracy is majority(mob) rule, driven by the organizations or groups that know how to manipulate the mob (Public).
The Majority doesn't represent the people, they're only the people that convinced themselves they are more right then the rest of the people and have risen into their own positions of power and feed off of their own delusions of grandeur.