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Gov.uk has a max sentence length of 25 words

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I believe long sentences become progressively more difficult to comprehend due to the general limits of short term memory, the so called “chunks”, they’re more or less even among the population, not showing much variance. Cognitive deficits further complicates the matter. As someone with such deficits I very much appreciate fragmented texts. As a matter of fact I was easily able to read this entire article. It must be noted that as important as keeping sentences short, at least on the web, it is important to space the paragraphs as well, if accessibility is the goal.

Did you intend to put 35 words in your first sentence?

In fact, there's a PG essay on this matter.

https://www.paulgraham.com/simply.html

> Studies also show that sentences of 11 words are considered easy to read, while those of 21 words are fairly difficult. At 25 words, sentences become difficult, and 29 words or longer, very difficult.

I spot-checked some stuff I've written, and sentences regularly exceed 29 words. Some of this would certainly be improved if it was shortened a bit, but I don't think most of it is "very difficult" to read. The study is a 404, but I'd expect there are other factors beyond sentence length – in particular, I wonder how much other punctuation marks such as commas, semi-colons, and dashes affect things, as well as general writing style(?)

As a reader, I'm not a huge fan of the "short sentence, short paragraph" style. BBC does this, and it's one reason I don't really like the BBC. There just isn't any good "rhythm" or "flow" to it – it's kind of hard to explain. I dislike the bullet-point style that some publications have been using even more (actually, I dislike bullet points in general, outside of some specific use cases).

If you read some older 16th-18th century works then they often have ridiculously long sentences that never seem to end. I have difficulty reading those. Old-fashioned spelling also doesn't help here.

I don't know, I tend to write with too large of a vocabulary with too large of sentences for most people. I've found people consistently appreciate me rewriting what I say in plain English.

There's certain contexts in which only long sentences really do the job though... I see some eye watering sentences in scientific papers all the time. Sometimes you can hardly comprehend a long sentence because the concept being described is simply difficult to comprehend.

Long sentences aren't just difficult for people who struggle with reading or have a cognitive disability like dyslexia or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. They're also a problem for highly literate people with extensive vocabularies.

This is partly because people tend to scan, not read. In fact, most people only read around 25% of what’s on a page.

I've got dyslexia and ADHD and several other attributes that make reading difficult.

Most people do not read well and many not at all.

Literally the first thing I saw was: Google Analytics sets cookies that store anonymised information about how you got to the site, the blog pages you visit, how long you spend on each page and what you click on while you're visiting the site.

FWIW...

    $ echo "Google Analytics sets cookies that store anonymised information about how you got to the site, the blog pages you visit, how long you spend on each page and what you click on while you're visiting the site." | wc
          1      37     207

Gov.uk is one of the best thought through, best websites out there.

this is a 10 yr old post

Fuck reductive metrics. Write for your audience.

In the world of patents, multi-hundred word sentences are normal. There are regulatory reasons for that. Yes, patents are inaccessible, which suits the purposes of the people who write them.

This generalizes to the worlds of law and academic writing.

Besides all that, a sentence with many words in it may suit poets.

I have written very long sentences specifically to create a puzzle for my readers; I have done so specifically to convey a sense of complexity as a rhetorical technique; I do so in the service of my project, whatever that is.

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