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Yeah, it's hard to hate a country for attempting to protect their culture. Kudos.

"Protect their culture" is one of those phrases that raises alarm bells, especially when it's being used by a government. We have a 1st Amendment for a reason - because governments are not to be trusted with the decisions of what cultures to protect or not. In the specific case of France, all sorts of horrible shit was done in the name of """protecting""" their culture. There were several other languages[0] native to France that Francophones had themselves tried to wipe out[1]. French is not a language in need of protection, it is a brutal predator in and of itself. If English weren't there to keep it in check[2], it'd go eat all the rest of the languages.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patois

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occitan_language#Preservation

[2] Similar to the concept of a keystone predator, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_species

Funnily enough, defending the language means trying to delegitimze stuff like this: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/12/world/africa/africa-frenc...

The white French government is mad that their previous imperial subjects are now really defining what French will be into the future.

>The white French government is mad that their previous imperial subjects are now really defining what French will be into the future.

whats wrong?

Strongly agree. If people want to listen to non-French songs to the point where the government needs to legislate a minimum, who is actually benefiting?

Domestic artists whose music is otherwise insufficiently supported by the local industry and who would risk being totally crowded out in favour of blasting the new Doja Cat at the expense of ever airing anything unfamiliar.

So, while music diversity on the radio is a problem, it is not a problem unique to France or even foreign language music overall. Nor do language quotas solve it. I imagine it winds up being the same as CanCon, where it doesn't so much improve the diversity of songs on the radio as much as it gives Nickelback lots of playtime.

Language quotas are not meant to be the solution, they're meant to be part of the solution. Canada is a completely different scenario given its proximity and relationship to the US. Speaking as a former music journalist in a country with domestic music quotas of varying degrees, I can tell you these things help.

Your first amedment doesn't give a shit about natives also.

They basically killed off all the other minority languages they had in their country (like oxitan) and homogenised on standard French. Some irony in that.

When I visited Paris, the expectation to (at least try to) speak French and the national pride felt like looking at a certain version of the US from the outside.

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