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All I know is that I was quoted $50K from a Ukraine team to build an MVP, as long as I could provide detailed specs down to every function. I hired an intern who used bubble/airtable to build our product in two months and had ten paying customers in 6 months. After almost two years have yet to find a reason to move to a traditional stack. We have had 6 hours of down time in those two years thanks to bubble issues. I can live with that.

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Not a fair comparison. One you were asking for fixed price contract the other you are paying a salary. The salaried person is more likely to be able to be agile and not need requirements (if you said to the intern $20k once I am happy with the job they’d say “define happy” and you are back to requirements!)

As for code vs. no code. If (big if!) bubble can do what you need it can be a cheaper route to launch an MVP.

If the question is "how do I get what I need built", the it's a completely fair comparison.

Please, do tell more!

Where I see no/low code fall apart is when complex input data validation is required. However, I can also see that this might be our old practices getting in the way of innovative forward thinking.

Maybe you've found a way, since you are starting from scratch :)

FWIW I run the IT dept for a mid-level talent agency. I moved us off an old system and into Airtable specifically because it’s flexible enough on every front. The killer feature for me is the concept of “views”, which means we can have all the data available at all times, but only surface the data that a particular user needs for them. In a company full of less than technical people, this has been an absolute godsend.

And when we continue to grow, there are ways off of Airtable since it’s all just CSV underneath.

What would be these complex data validation requirements?

Can you share your product? I want to see how an enterprise level bubble app looks like.

What was being built? If you don't want to share the exact details, can you share a general outline?

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