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There’s a real problem of transparency and opacity of actual numbers when it comes to contribution to global warming, diseases, and other issues at scale. It’s a shame and it’s not clear how we can do better without some real technological breakthrough in measurement

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Maybe just measure CO2 in the atmosphere? And maybe put international pressure on the largest emitters? (China and India)

China is where Walmart gets their cheap crap (and Apple their iPhones ), tax the CO2 and the people shopping at Walmart get mad that everything's more expensive. Slash, the manufacturers look for other countries where maybe the CO2 expulsion is under the limit, or the reporting isn't that robust... Because hey if they're not competitive price-wise, the customers look elsewhere for their cheap crap...

je vous presente https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_Border_Adjustment_Mecha...

Ah yes, clearly it's only those people shopping at Walmart that would not be happy about price increases. More than that, it's only that cheap crap that they buy that would get more expensive. Enlightened people like you will just stand above it and buy nothing but organic, locally sourced crap!

With a high carbon footprint due to the price local labour is paid and the amount of stuff they purchase. When you buy from China and India you know people are only getting paid enough to just buy food and a small place to live, drastically reducing their carbon footprint.

Nah, I also like my products as cheap as possible. As do you (if I can guess). Hey, aren't we all good members of this capitalistic system?

Sadly the masses will vote for their near-term interest and not to avoid +3 degree C catastrophe they haven't paid attention about, which is anyway "many many years in the future".

That's measured already since the 60s. You never see any reference to it because what it shows is a constant rate of increase that is entirely unaffected by literally anything you can think of. Rise of China? No impact. Lockdowns and the global air travel shutdown? No impact. Renewables revolution? Invisible. Great recession? Of course not. And all the international conferences and agreements.... well, you get the picture.

This fact is discouraging which is why the media and government enforce a blanket silence about it. Along with many other aspects of climate science.

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