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This is why I try to be as vegan as possible. Obviously not always possible. But I try. At home I don’t eat meat or use animal products.

Outside if my friends want to go Korean or something it almost always has eggs or beef broth but what can I do? Sucks but I get the tofu options.

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Same for me. I've been mostly vegan for over ten years now. I "downgrade" to only vegetarian when it really cannot be avoided – which, luckily, has been only when I've travelled to countries where there really weren't any vegan options.

Why would you be against eating animals products? Many produce them naturally themselves. For example, chickens lay eggs if we want them to or not. If humans don't take the eggs, chickens would eat them themselves or leave them to rot. If you're against industrial farming of them, fine, but there are plenty of eggs you can buy from certified ethical farms. Or even better, you can keep them yourself! They are great to get rid of food scraps.

Same with bees and honey. The only times you hear it mentioned that it harms the bees is when no sources are provided or the study turns out to be garbage (and waylaid by multiple other studies that are tiptoed around).

> If you're against industrial farming of them, fine, but there are plenty of eggs you can buy from certified ethical farms.

The parent notes that they are willing to compromise on being vegan for convenience, so presumably they are not against ethically produced animal products, but would forgo animal products altogether as a matter of convenience as well. Ethically produced animal products may not be verifiably accessible for someone for many reasons.

I’m against industrial farming because of the horrific conditions.

Also stuff drinking the milk of another animal, something that’s reserved for its child, is kind of horrible. All those cows are lined up and pumped and then what? Probably killed. At least to me it is fuckin brutal.

The only thing you can legitimately call me out on is that I don’t go to the doctor or engage much in modern medicine. Seeing monkeys with their brains exposed or puppies and cats suffering “for science” is also wack to me. When it’s my time I’ll go. Hopefully not too much pain.

Its pretty brutal and ghastly how they alledgedly dispose of male chicks...

It’s not allegedly it’s true at factory farms.

Pulverized at birth.

And no that’s not a brutal death metal song name it’s real life.

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